have gone back up in price at chain reaction. I bought a set 3 weeks ago for 235 and now they are 320.
Because they are always overpricedwhy are Troy Lee helmets 500???
It's the same in Australia - CRC is often cheaper than wholesale prices, esp for Shimano stuff. Retarded attitude though - "hey those guys are undercutting us, whatever shall we do? Make our business model more efficient and cut costs to compete?"I actually heard a rumor that Shimano was going to try and put a stop the the massive exchange rate discount that CRC had. Not sure about that, but I remember for a while CRC sold them cheaper at retail than we could get them from distributors...
wait, are you saying it's retarded for retail suppliers to complain that CRC gets or can provide such a discount as their parts are below wholesale available to retailers? That sounds pretty unfair to me, especially when you can only buy through approved channels...it puts the small shop out of business, as you can't sell parts for less than you buy them for unless you're retarded and hate being in business. Sounds like a very fair complaint to me, even if it ends up limiting the amount of stuff I can buy from CRC.It's the same in Australia - CRC is often cheaper than wholesale prices, esp for Shimano stuff. Retarded attitude though - "hey those guys are undercutting us, whatever shall we do? Make our business model more efficient and cut costs to compete?"
"Nah let's just whinge to the manufacturer and force those guys to put their prices up."
A LOT of distributors in Aus do the same thing too, it sucks.
Nah it's not the shops at all (they have no say in wholesale prices for starters!) - it's the distributors here in Aus that aren't capable of bringing stuff in for reasonable prices. Why should I pay $230+ (wholesale) for a Hope ProII rear hub when I can get an entire wheel built (with 823s no less) shipped to my door from CRC for the same money? Or Saint cranks for $250-380 (yes actual price variation) wholesale when they're usually substantially less than that on CRC? Especially in Shimano's case - Shimano Aus are owned by Shimano Japan, they have NO excuse for pricing if they can afford to sell to CRC for whatever they do!wait, are you saying it's retarded for retail suppliers to complain that CRC gets or can provide such a discount as their parts are below wholesale available to retailers? That sounds pretty unfair to me, especially when you can only buy through approved channels...it puts the small shop out of business, as you can't sell parts for less than you buy them for unless you're retarded and hate being in business. Sounds like a very fair complaint to me, even if it ends up limiting the amount of stuff I can buy from CRC.
anyways...methinks you have the cranks confused. If not, their prices do fluctuate often....check daily and every day the price will be different, generally not by a lot but it's noticeable.
I can guarantee you it is not this. Likely some other combination of the things you mentioned. I know that the Saint cranks I bought from them were OEM, not aftermarket. My take on it is, enjoy it while you can and certainly take advantage of it, because it is not a sustainable business model and it will not continue as it has the last couple of years.I don't know if it's selling in volume
hate to disagree, but youre wrong. online retailers like them will only strive in the upcoming years b/c of their prices. see my post aboveI can guarantee you it is not this. ..... because it is not a sustainable business model and it will not continue as it has the last couple of years.
Actually, you are dead wrong on the pricing structure. It is not down to purchasing power and quantity discounts are not the reason they can sell for the prices they do. It is purchasing product that is slated for OEM (in which case the prices are FAR lower) and selling it as aftermarket product. That will eventually get cut off and duty/import taxes will eventually catch up with them as well. My predictions at least. I could be wrong.hate to disagree, but youre wrong. online retailers like them will only strive in the upcoming years b/c of their prices. see my post above
hate to disagree, but youre wrong. online retailers like them will only strive in the upcoming years b/c of their prices. see my post above
they havent been cut off yet and duty/import taxes are already high now. the mfg's wont cut them off unless they want to lose a significant portion of their business.That will eventually get cut off and duty/import taxes will eventually catch up with them as well. My predictions at least. I could be wrong.
so, by his accounts, we should see CRC with higher pricing soon and not as prominent as they are now.
FYI, It's actually Dogboy's business is to know exactly what CRC is doing. He's not making uninformed comments.
I'm very hesitant to order from CRC again, after I got a small unpadded box of parts, total value over $600, shipped overseas. I couldn't believe it when I opened it up- no boxes, no insulation, no padding or packaging. The BB spindle was poking out of the side.Haters will hate.
I currently work for a manufacturer in the automotive industry that sells stuff OE and aftermarket in parallel (which has difficulties the bike industry doesn't get to see because Shimano stuff never gets rebranded by the OE purchaser unlike with cars), and really - who cares whether your product is OE or AM? The simple fact is that the cost for manufacturing and distribution to the end consumer is lower. OE costs are lower, at least in the company I work for, primarily for one reason: volume of sales. We don't sell 5 or 10 of a given product to say Toyota, we sell them maybe 500-1000 at a time, which makes production and shipping efficient. With the aftermarket products (which unlike in the bike industry, are NOT the same as the OE products, they have to be developed separately and after the release of the vehicle in order not to piss the likes of Toyota off), the development time available is shorter, manufacturing runs are done in tens not hundreds or thousands, and they're shipped 2 or 3 at a time (expensive) to vendors around the country. In this case, I understand why the AM products end up selling for about twice as much.Actually, you are dead wrong on the pricing structure. It is not down to purchasing power and quantity discounts are not the reason they can sell for the prices they do. It is purchasing product that is slated for OEM (in which case the prices are FAR lower) and selling it as aftermarket product. That will eventually get cut off and duty/import taxes will eventually catch up with them as well. My predictions at least. I could be wrong.
theres good stuff heregood stuff
i dont know how it is in little Britain, but here companies have to let you know they are selling you a OEM productSometimes product warranties vary OEM vs. retail, and while I'd be fine with OEM, I want to know that before I order. Parts may be missing, previously installed, etc.
most german onlineshops are cheaper...Ah, fair enough.
I would only contend that very few mail order outlets can touch CRC's prices. I don't know how they get their phenomenal deals, but if there's something sneaky going on, it would help to level the playing field. I don't know if it's selling in volume, or rebranding OEM parts, or some sort of tax sneakery, but I'm not sure it's fair and balanced competition. If it's simply that they're able to offer better deals because they have a better business model, then it's time to stop bitching and copy the business model!
Didn't it reach the US that there is an anti-CRC movement?I actually heard a rumor that Shimano was going to try and put a stop the the massive exchange rate discount that CRC had. Not sure about that, but I remember for a while CRC sold them cheaper at retail than we could get them from distributors...
83 or 73?I've got a set of single ring Saints for sale.... 165mm! Great shape!
Maybe want. How much?73. My TR450 is 83 so I needed to replace 'em...