[iksmudge]

WTP this year have NO 24" bike but instead have gone with this :
http://www.wethepeoplebmx.de/bikes/champ-26
Eh?

Sorry, title should be 2012

 

[WestCoastHucker]

somewhere out there, a shark just witnessed a tabletop overhead...

 

[KitsapCruiser]

I find it odd that there are no stats listed anywhere for the bike that I could find. Also, the dual top tube thing is odd to me as well. But those whitewalls look sick! (And remind me of a beach cruiser.)

 

[oldtricks]

That looks pretty cool actually

 

[eaterofdog]

What the **** is up with that extra tube. It's like a big mole on someone's face. I can't stop staring at it.

 

[don]

What the **** is up with that extra tube. It's like a big mole on someone's face. I can't stop staring at it.

Total bite from Champion BMX: http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/champion/41539

I kinda liked those frames BITD. I think WTP did a good job on it - more of a bar/town bike but still real neat.

On a side note, I love what WTP did with their 16" and 18" bikes. Nice rides for the little guys.

 

[WestCoastHucker]

..Total bite from Champion BMX...

good call. i was gonna say profile, but their extra tube sloped way more dramatically and ended up mid-downtube...

edit: dang, even the rear dropouts are a knock off of the champion...

double edit: the WTP bike is called "the champ", so is seems to me like the "champion" was the total driving force behind this one...

 

[sittingduck]

Holy crap, look at the length of the chainstays on that Champion! Might be 20".

 

[don]

good call. i was gonna say profile, but their extra tube sloped way more dramatically and ended up mid-downtube...

edit: dang, even the rear dropouts are a knock off of the champion...

double edit: the WTP bike is called "the champ", so is seems to me like the "champion" was the total driving force behind this one...

I raced a Profile for cruiser class back in the 80's and actual dug it out when I started riding DJ trails and park back in the late 90's (jeeez, I'm an old fart) and can spot a Profile frame a mile away. I actually have a 20" complete that I bought from someone local and my daughter uses it.

WCH - some more info on that mid-tube:

Over a year and a half was spent in experimenting with different styles designed around one constantly remaining feature: the original Champion's dual front triangle. From a visual standpoint it appears as if the middle-gusset tube is connected to the down-tube and seat mast. Don't be misled. The gusset tube actually extends though and is welded to the head tube. To accomplish this, all the tubes are jigged up in a fixture. A welder then tacks the gusset tube to the seat mast. The down tube is carefully slipped rearward along the gusset tube to expose the head-tube/gusset-tube butt joint. After that joint is welded, the down tube is moved back into its position and welded. From that point the frame is 100% welded in the jig.
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The objective of the dual triangulation is to spread out the concentration of stress loads in the most efficient fashion. To do this, the gusset tube has to be connected directly to the head tube and triangled with the top tube where it ends at the seat mast. Any other arrangement would not fully be effective. Champion's dual triangle gives it perhaps the best strength to weight ratio going."
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The frame designer (Mike Konle) on the Double Triangulation:
"It's been my experience, in aircraft and in crane booms, the way you get strength is through heavier wall thickness. You can make a frame lighter and equally as strong if it's triangulated correctly. It's the same as a boom on a big crane. They are triangulated all the way out to the tips with small diameter tubing, yet they're as strong as if they were a solid stock six-foot square. But a solid square of solid stock would bend like a garden hose under its own weight if you lifted it from one end. At the same time, your triangulated box section would barley sag under its own weight.
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When you land from a jump, imagine as the front wheel hits the ground it wants to spread the wheelbase apart. That 5/8" tube welded in there gives us a straight-pull reinforcement of the head tube area.

Stolen from a page on Vintage: http://www.vintagebmx.com/community/lofiversion/index.php/t1022737-50.html

 

[WestCoastHucker]

I raced a Profile for cruiser class..

i also raced a profile way back then, but i had a 20 instead of the cruiser. easily one of my favorites back then. so anytime i see a mid-tube, that's the first place my mind goes, regardless if the configuration is the same. at that time i wasn't aware of any of the other bikes that used them.

interesting about them continuing to the head tube, that part i was completely unaware of...

 

[sbabuser]

The Seed is pretty cool, too bad it's so heavy (20lbs). My daughter only weighs 36 lbs, so I'm trying to keep her bike to less than half her weight.