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buildyourown

Turbo Monkey
Feb 9, 2004
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The ones that Vanderham and Simmons where riding are not the same bike as that black one pictured. The pro's where much nicer. The machine work was insane. Definitley a bike a machinist would build. The pivot location looked spot on (ala a Turner). Low pivots rule.

The linkage looked very slayerish but bigger.
There where 2 different version, one with floater, one without. The floater stradled the dropout with a clevis like the older cannodales.
The bikes looked very heavy from afar. However, on closer inspection, they got very aggressive with the machining. I'm sure they are lighter than they look.
The DT looks goofy. Either they did some real FEA and figured out that bulging the DT would make it stronger, or they grabbed some random off the shelf hydroformed tube and slapped it on there.

Overall, very promising if they get the geo right. Much better than anything else they've attempted in the last 8 years.
 

AlmostHeaven

Turbo Monkey
Jun 8, 2005
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actually it doesn't really look like all that much is machined out at all... besides the upper shock mount pieces and the links of course. why else would anyone besides Simmons or Vanderham be riding one of these bikes?

looks semi-worthy!
 

rodrigodh

Chimp
Mar 12, 2005
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from pinkbike,
finally i found one that shows the susp system without dirt, but it would've been better fromthea side


 

WBC

Monkey
Aug 8, 2003
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PNW
Why does Rocky have such a buttfetish for hotspots and short unsupported links? Low pivot works for Turners only because the Turner makes up for skittish suspension handling with amazing worksmanship and tuned Geo...Rocky?

But it's definitely way better than anything they've made in a long time.
 

dropmachine

Turbo Monkey
Sep 7, 2001
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Your face.
I'd rather ride it and comment before judging it. Admittedly, I am not a big fan of rocky, but this doesn't look bad at all. Hopefully I can get my hands on one soon. ;)
 

big-ted

Danced with A, attacked by C, fired by D.
Sep 27, 2005
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Why does Rocky have such a buttfetish for hotspots and short unsupported links? Low pivot works for Turners only because the Turner makes up for skittish suspension handling with amazing worksmanship and tuned Geo...Rocky?
Bollocks. You've just bought into the marketing hype perpetuated by the likes of DW, Santa Cruz and Giant. Turner's may not be the best suited bikes to ploughing through Rock Gardens, but they're still some of the best cornering bikes out there, precisely because of the suspension layout, and for some riders that's more important. Different bikes excel in different areas. You choose which is most important t you. The joys of being a consumer eh?
 

ZHendo

Turbo Monkey
Oct 29, 2006
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i personally think that it could be a nice bike, but it is ass ugly in those pictures. they're using so much material, why not make it a gearbox bike, they could find room in that massive shock area. the top tube looks pretty nice, but the down tube is so, so hideous. maybe their idea is that if it is wide enough it'll take the place of a fender? that said, i'll bet it corners on rails because of how low all that weight is. that's a lot of material and it's all over the bb.
 

tsamps

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May 6, 2007
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Haha, i thought that was a fender first too, but it is actually the helmet in the backround.
 

WBC

Monkey
Aug 8, 2003
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Bollocks. You've just bought into the marketing hype perpetuated by the likes of DW, Santa Cruz and Giant. Turner's may not be the best suited bikes to ploughing through Rock Gardens, but they're still some of the best cornering bikes out there, precisely because of the suspension layout, and for some riders that's more important. Different bikes excel in different areas. You choose which is most important t you. The joys of being a consumer eh?
No way man, I love single pivots.

But there is no way you can tell me that a Turner DHR plows rock gardens as well as a high single pivot, or other designs with a more reward axle path...a 224 for example? Izumi? Even the Commencal is more reward. The design on the DHR is more conducive to ease of changing directions, playfulness, etc. Low single pivots make awesome freeride and jump bikes, just not WC DH bikes. It's the same reason why FSR bikes feel so harsh through the chatter. And that being said, there's a strong possibility my next frame will be a DHR, but it's not cause it's the fastest, it's because it's fun to ride...and I'm not racing at a high enough level to need anything super fast.

Regardless, if we look at the history in build quality, geo numbers, etc - Turner can make less than stellar suspension designs work amazingly well. Rocky on the other hand pays a lot of attention to their industrial design, but their technology has produced some problematic products. They are just one of those companies you want to like, but you gotta stay skeptical.
 

FlipSide

Turbo Monkey
Sep 24, 2001
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Please stop commenting on the look of a prototype.

Just remember how fugly the Spesh Demo steel prototype was... There are good chances that the production RM will be quite pleasing to your esthetic-seeking eyes.