SICK. Showed up this morning.
'05 Fly
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Now that is sweeeeeeeeeeeet.
You suck!! You might be one of the only people who should legitimatly be on this site while at work.
I love how they mounted the floating brake arm end in a clevis on the frame. Very smart and probably lighter in the end.
I love how they mounted the floating brake arm end in a clevis on the frame. Very smart and probably lighter in the end.
That's one fatty-fat top-tube!
Shizit !
Shizit !
Man I like that floater solution
I like how it looks like it's going to still hit a reasonably sized tire just like the old ones.buildyourown said:
At least it's got a gas tank to hide the drugs in so we can travel accross the country, pick up Jack Nicholson, hang out with hippies in a commune, have a freak out in New Orleans and generally be wild.......which is what we were born to do.
Somebody hurry up and buy one of these things and tell me how it rides.
Maybe Foes will take my '04 Fly and money for trade and give me an '05......NOT!
That thing is freaking sweeeeet!
That thing is freaking sweeeeet!
Nice...like it polished !
I don't think a tire under a 2.6" is going to rub the floater, remember the bike has a 150 rear end this year so the arm starts at a wider point. The chainstay yoke looks like it could clear just about anything other than a Gazzi 3.0, and the floater arm actually seems to have more clearance. We'll see once we get a tire in there, I guess.
build it!!!James | Go-Ride said:
build it!!!
build it!!!
I have a friend (Russ here) who is getting one. Can't wait to see it.kidwoo said:
Shhhhh, already working on thatkidwoo said:
neaky: By the way, medium with the axle in, steel spring on the Curnutt, and the floater weighs 11.1 pounds. Not a lightweight by any stretch, but not bad either for a 9" bike. I figure with a ti spring and no floater you'd be at about 9.8 pounds, which is reasonable.The attatched image shows the tire clearance with a Maxxis Minion 2.5 on a Mavic EX721. The tire's a little worn but you can see there's plenty of clearance with the most popular race tire on the market (at least in the Western US, sorry Michie guys but it's true
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Any good reason behind the gass tank or is it just to be different?
that was my next question. not sure I like the looks of that, but thre might be a reason (function) behind it?CBJ said:
why the gastank?
besides that i like it
besides that i like it
I already answered the gas tank question. Jeesh.
Actually I'm sure it's for the same reason anyone uses moncoque anything....it's usually stiffer or easier than manipulating a tube to the shape they want.
Whoo hoo wheel is already in. You know that a 2.5 DHF tire is itsy bitsy though. Still looks better than the old ones....... I guess the 150 hinder does some good. What size shock does that frame use? I.E. can it be replaced?
Actually I'm sure it's for the same reason anyone uses moncoque anything....it's usually stiffer or easier than manipulating a tube to the shape they want.
Whoo hoo wheel is already in. You know that a 2.5 DHF tire is itsy bitsy though. Still looks better than the old ones....... I guess the 150 hinder does some good. What size shock does that frame use? I.E. can it be replaced?
You could maybe use an adapter that Foes made a couple of years ago, but most of the Foes stuff, Fly included, is designed specifically around the Curnutt shock. That doesn't sound like a big deal initially when you think about the handful of other progressive, platform shocks on the market, but the Curnutt has a much larger air volume and a pretty unique progressive curve, so the suspension of the Fly and the Mono would be super linear without the ramp from the shock.
The gas tank supposedly adds like 30% more stiffness up front. Whether or not that is actually true, it definitely gives the bike a unique look.
The gas tank supposedly adds like 30% more stiffness up front. Whether or not that is actually true, it definitely gives the bike a unique look.
run your fork bumpers kids!!!James | Go-Ride said:
Wow. That would make for a very nice bike. I'll be keeping a close eye out for the first feedback on how it rides.
James | Go-Ride said:
There go all the rumors of the frame loosing 2lbs from 04.
Im waiting till next year to buy a FLY. The first year always has lots of problems but Foes changes them ASAP. Remeber the first fly..... broke down tube. Then they changed the pivot on the floater in 03. There were a lot of changes to the older style Fly till it was perfected. I believe the late 03 and 04 where the best FLYs. I love mine.
The 05 will go through some changed too. Im waiting to see.
The 05 will go through some changed too. Im waiting to see.
The good news about the '05 is that several of the parts have already been used in some of the other bikes. I don't think we're going to see structural changes for next year (I know, speculation but hear me out) as the two areas the original Fly had problems with have been totally scrapped. First was the downtube, which was a tapered tube. The '05 version has a downtube that is pretty close to straight gauge, and it seems to be just about the same tube that was used on the DHS Tube. The other spot was the big torsion bowl the shock sat in. Obviously that is gone as well. The main pivot uses the same bearings as the FXR, but uses four bearings instead of two.Kanter said:
Looking at the machine work in the rest of the frame as well as the monocoque sections leads us to believe that the frame is actually overbuilt for most use, other than hucker-style abuse (for which I believe it is impossible to make a frame that won't break that doesn't weigh 14+ pounds). I hate to sound like the pushy sales guy, but we wouldn't have brought them in, or for that matter subtly encouraged excitement about the frame by posting pics this morning
, if we didn't think they were going to be able to hang.It will be interesting to see if our faith in the frame is well-placed, but Scott and Kris usually have a pretty good eye for what is going to work and what isn't, and Kris specifically is good at catching stuff right off the bat (probably thanks to his stint as an employee at Karpiel not that long ago). As for the weight thing, Foes said at the trade show that the frame should be about a pound lighter than the '04 Fly, which it is, so I don't know where the 2 pounds thing came from other than e-spec.
In short, think about buying one! From us! Hahaha just kidding. Sort of.
Looks sweet. Though I thought that a full-length seat tube was on the list of new for '05 features. Doesn't look like you get much more insertion than the old frame.
Damn is that sexy though.
Damn is that sexy though.
thanks for putting those pics up!
man thats hot.... heh weighs the same as my bb7. oh speakling of that. i got all the parts on monday. thanks alot. the floaters awesome. kills the tire clearance though
Thanks for the pic James. It's starting to grow on me more than when they first posted pics from Interbike. Still don't like the whales hump, but maybe it looks better in person.
Tire clearence still looks tight considering...everyone knows how Maxxi's are overstated.
Hmm maybe I'll have to sell my fly and upgrade to an 05'. Give us reports once you ride it plz. I'm particullarly interested in Krispy's feedback since he had a lot of saddle time with the previous model.
Tire clearence still looks tight considering...everyone knows how Maxxi's are overstated.
Hmm maybe I'll have to sell my fly and upgrade to an 05'. Give us reports once you ride it plz. I'm particullarly interested in Krispy's feedback since he had a lot of saddle time with the previous model.
Thats cool... I just received my 05 DHS mono. The fabrication work is amazing. My bike with frame headset floater , ti spring and shock weighed 13.1 lbs. They curnutt shock looks amazing.
Wow looks way better there than it did at ib, sick frame 
I'm not sure about the shock, it takes the monster Curnutt (11" I think? I'm not at work so I can't run and measure one) which is the same shock body as on the Mono, so I doubt they changed anything. You'll probably want to get your Avy revalved if you put it on one of the new Fly frames though, the leverage ratio is up a bit (I think about 2.7:1 on the old bike in 8" mode, and exactly 3:1 on the '05).
Post diameter is 31.6, so the lack of seatpost adjustment isn't a total bummer thanks to the handful of telescoping posts on the market. Yeah, it's a band-aid fix for sure, but at least the bike has more adjustment now than it did before. For the amount of travel the bike has and where the pivot is located, Foes had to bend the tube like that to keep a decent seat tube angle and keep the tire from buzzing hard on the seat tube under full compression. I know it's a bummer but it's getting better.
Post diameter is 31.6, so the lack of seatpost adjustment isn't a total bummer thanks to the handful of telescoping posts on the market. Yeah, it's a band-aid fix for sure, but at least the bike has more adjustment now than it did before. For the amount of travel the bike has and where the pivot is located, Foes had to bend the tube like that to keep a decent seat tube angle and keep the tire from buzzing hard on the seat tube under full compression. I know it's a bummer but it's getting better.
Slut.James | Go-Ride said:I hate to sound like the pushy sales guy,
In short, think about buying one! From us! Hahaha just kidding. Sort of.
It's hard to tell at the angle the bike is at, but that thing looks like it would have seat tube angle somewhere that is uber slack, making it pretty tough to raise the seat all the way up for climbing and keep it in a good position.Bulldog said:
CH, I thought you were on our payroll to make me look smarter when I post on here via verifying my comments and intentions. Ah, I mean . . . I have to go.
Sorry Sir, i wont let it happen againJames | Go-Ride said:
