2009 DeeMax
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Im sorry but those new graphics looks like some pikey has got hold of it and tried to make it look cool....i want the yellow back!lol
It will return, you can be sure of that.
1000$ gets u I9 ,2 sets of add lite (same whight) ,2 sets of the new deetraks (only 100g more)
or any kind of handbuilt wheelset with better hubs.
lame !
or any kind of handbuilt wheelset with better hubs.
lame !
Thank god for that
- I know it's the factory colour and all that but it does look damn awful. 
they are sticking with that failure of a hub/spoke connection? gross.
new bearings going in the hubs at least. still dont have my attention at the $1000 msrp though.
That yellow seriously makes a DH bike look more legit.
And the hubs are totally new from what I understand.
And the hubs are totally new from what I understand.
They will still offer the "ghastly" yellow. Every single aspect of the wheel is redesigned and new for 09. (Mavic rep came by the shop yesterday)
Spokes can't escape from the hub slots anymore. So that is fixed. New freehub system, although if it's as ghastly as the one on my current 150mm DeeMax wheel (different from the 135mm version) then I am not impressed.
But seriously, the price increase is breathtaking! They cost almost twice as much now. Not surprising, really, since the dollar is so weak. And at least you get a significantly better wheel with the price increase. And really, it's going to be somewhat tough to beat the new weight with a wheel built with 823s...
But yeah, it makes I9s look cheap.
JMH
But seriously, the price increase is breathtaking! They cost almost twice as much now. Not surprising, really, since the dollar is so weak. And at least you get a significantly better wheel with the price increase. And really, it's going to be somewhat tough to beat the new weight with a wheel built with 823s...
But yeah, it makes I9s look cheap.
JMH
i dig the color , but not the price.
They are currently $799.99. So assuming there were no changes to the wheelset and accounting for the price increases coming on pretty much all bikes/components next year, they would be around $960. Considering they are completely redesigned and look to be heaps better, that puts the new price a bit more in perspective.
Peeps, bike stuff is going to be real expensive soon.
$1k, now that's funny.
Anyone have an idea on how much I9's with 823's weigh in comparison?
I disagree, everything, wheter bike product or car, gets improved when a new generation is launched. The price normally rises with it a bit, but a 25% rise is rediculous, greedy, and plain wrong. On top of that, they use normal spokes now FFS. They're a whole lot cheaper.
and i can still get a 823 for $70 and a hadley for $300.
Face it, they're jacking the price because they know plenty of people will buy the name.
My point was that they would be going up roughly 20% without the re-design.
Pelo is right - you will see next year.
Gehy...
It's not about greed. It's just that our dollar is worth **** these days. The dollar lost 15% to the euro this year alone
$1000 does seem pretty steep but... looks like they did a TON of CNC/milling on the outside of the 09' DeeMax rims, so I'm guessing the new pricing is inclusive of this. It also seems like 90% of the parts used to make these wheels have either been tweaked or redesigned, so that is going to carry over into the pricing of the product as well. Add to that the the cost of raw materials, and the rising price of oil... it starts to add up after a while...
...and if you guys think THIS is expensive for 09' gear, you're REALLY not gonna like the cost of bikes in 09'...
...and if you guys think THIS is expensive for 09' gear, you're REALLY not gonna like the cost of bikes in 09'...
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The motocross industry is laughing at us. Compare the prices of basics within each sport.
compare the #s produced within each sport.
They look hot
Yeh, so a big ass truck made out of a ship load of steel, and that today costs about 2-300.000€, is then of course going to have a similar price increase of 50-100.000€? Thought you told me that you passed your economics class.
Your eminent mr dr proffessor would be very disapointed in you now. You're not quite representative for "the elite of the country", that he was oraly scating about.
Pelo drinks more wiskey and limps more than Zeb Macahan. And he shared his bottle with you. Have a good recovery.
I agree with you fully, it's the fundamental thing of every capitalist society. And the dollar has a good piece in that 25% increase figure. Some 15-20% of that $200, to be more exact.
True, the milling is a lot of job. The finance for tweaking/redesigning/improving a product, comes from the profits that their old products made. Only the exceeding part of the manufacturing cost, between the old and the new wheel, is put on that 25% increase.$1000 does seem pretty steep but... looks like they did a TON of CNC/milling on the outside of the 09' DeeMax rims, so I'm guessing the new pricing is inclusive of this. It also seems like 90% of the parts used to make these wheels have either been tweaked or redesigned, so that is going to carry over into the pricing of the product as well. Add to that the the cost of raw materials, and the rising price of oil... it starts to add up after a while...
...and if you guys think THIS is expensive for 09' gear, you're REALLY not gonna like the cost of bikes in 09'...
The rising price of metals, sure, but with how much? We're talking about 2.2kg here. Extra oil for transports of those 2.2kg is in cents, not Euros.
Of course, these are my beliefs and I could be wrong. Time will tell, and a part of me hopes that you are right. Then a 2.2ton SUV will cost like a MF in a few months, yehaaa! :cowboyhatinair: :heelclicks: :emptymaginair:
Your math sucks. Retail on a Hadley set is ~$450. 823s are $95ea. Consider that the Deemax uses a machined 823 that you can't buy. $100 retail for nice spokes.
That's $740 not including labor.
I'd prefer the conventional wheel myself as well cause I don't think Mavic hubs are worth their weight in scrap but the retail price doesn't seem out of line with everything else on the market right now.
Have you seen the new Fulcrum stuff? Now that is silly.
I managed to score a new pair on ebay for a good price, and they are really nice in the flesh (so to speak). Saved a pound of rotating weight compared to my old King/823's, engagement feels as good as the King.
Plus they match the session 88 soooo well............
Plus they match the session 88 soooo well............
Man, that is soo sexy you must have a hard time not ending every ride with a DP and a massive facial.I managed to score a new pair on ebay for a good price, and they are really nice in the flesh (so to speak). Saved a pound of rotating weight compared to my old King/823's, engagement feels as good as the King.
Plus they match the session 88 soooo well............
I guess.
