[chillindrdude]

in my quest for my holy grail of trail bikes, I went from 26" FSR to ABP, then 29" VPP, and now...finally, arrived at the "just right" 27.5" VPP.

Presenting for your hate...2013 Santa Cruz Bronson C

Revelation 27.5, SRAM bits, XTR brakes, Enve/Hadley/Sapim wheelset (that I had to sell a kidney for)









I have plans for a 27.5 BOS Deville in August...

 

[yetihenry]

The kidney was worth it.

 

[trib]

I feel something rising in me...anger? confusion? lust? aahh, jealousy that's the one. Colossal amounts of jealousy

 

[ianjenn]

That thing is pretty killer one of the trail bikes I am looking at...

 

[Tomasis]

beautiful!

 

[Vrock]

Enve wheels... Check.
Fox CTD.... Check.

Fashion over Function... Yep, all the way.

 

[William42]

Enve wheels... Check.
Fox CTD.... Check.

Fashion over Function... Yep, all the way.

have you ridden enve wheels?

CTD? meh.

Enve? worth it if you can afford it.

 

[marshalolson]

needs more dirt!

sweet looking rig.

 

[CBJ]

CTD is really just 5 compression settings but relabeled for people who don't understand. Do not see how it lacks function but again this is the hater forum.

 

[HardtailHack]

Do you notice the 3% lower rolling resistance over a 26" wheel? Haha I'm a hater, my skills are so low a different wheel size won't do ****.

 

[chillindrdude]

27.8lbs as pictured...

Eventually id like to try the canecreek ccdb air or the new Bos air shock.

 

[tingers]

Nice, and it even has a water bottle cage. What seat is that?

 

[chillindrdude]

Nice, and it even has a water bottle cage. What seat is that?

SDG Ti-Fly.

when i only have time for short 6-10mile loops, i like to carry just a bottle. no pack

 

[Uncle Cliffy]

HATE HATE HATE

Just kidding, sweetness...

 

[joeg]

i hate to interrupt the hatefest with a question, but:


how does it ride?

 

[wiscodh]

i hate to interrupt the hatefest with a question, but:


how does it ride?

I got this....insert stock new bike review here
Corners like its on rails. Eats anything, poppy out of turns and it's awesome.....
I miss anything?




I think we're all a little jelly

 

[Lelandjt]

So close to their stock Enve build why didn't you go that route? It would be cheaper, right? A guy at my shop just got the Enve Bronson in a couple days ago and the fork was the only significant difference from your's.

 

[sethimus]

So close to their stock Enve build why didn't you go that route? It would be cheaper, right? A guy at my shop just got the Enve Bronson in a couple days ago and the fork was the only significant difference from your's.

isn't the enve wheelset santa cruz sells build with king hubs?

 

[Sandwich]

Looks awesome dude, welcome to the 650b club. I love the flashy yellow, it's... bright. What flavor tires are you running?

 

[chillindrdude]

i hate to interrupt the hatefest with a question, but:
how does it ride?

awesome.






i've only had one ride on it, and it was on easy trails. i rode a slacked out (just a tad under 69deg) tallboy 29r for 6months. i whupped on that bike and it was surprisingly capable. rear end was alittle noodle-y but i got used to it. the carbon rear triangle, 142TA, and enve rims was crazy stiff, night and day difference; very precise feeling and steady tracking. i got used to the higher lean angles and more forward biased weight while cornering of the 29r. when i rode the bronson, i oversteered the first couple times. i also felt i was entering and exiting corners quicker, but this may have been subjective and with "new-bike" bias.

i did get acosted by a few riders at the start of my ride asking me questions about it. as i am probably one of the first folks with the bronson in the VA/MD/DC area.

So close to their stock Enve build why didn't you go that route? It would be cheaper, right? A guy at my shop just got the Enve Bronson in a couple days ago and the fork was the only significant difference from your's.

most of the parts i already had from the 29r Tallboy. only the fork, headset, rims/spokes were purchased new. thankfully, a nice monkey was able to offer the rims to me at a much better price than retail. (still expensive, but less so). my local shop hooked me up with spokes and the wheelbuild for next to nothing.

and part of the fun for me is to build to my exact specifications.

Looks awesome dude, welcome to the 650b club. I love the flashy yellow, it's... bright. What flavor tires are you running?

its actually alittle limey...that specialized water bottle cage was a spot on match. running 2.35 hans dampfs...f-ing money. ran them on the slash, then the tallboy, and now the bronson.

 

[jonKranked]

you're gonna love it.




until 28 1/4" wheels come out

 

[Verskis]

until 28 1/4" wheels come out

I'm waiting for those as well, they truly are a great compromise of the nimbleness of the 27.5" and the stability of the 29".

 

[jonKranked]

I'm waiting for those as well, they truly are a great compromise of the nimbleness of the 27.5" and the stability of the 29".

might wanna wait on that, DW is working on some crazy new technology wheel. Apparently he's figured out a way to make a wheel and tire system that dynamically changes diameter depending on trail conditions, whether you're ascending or descending, if your kit has a matching colorway, and how much e-steez you have. I've already seen the patent application, it's called DW-DWS (Dynamic Wheel System)

 

[WestCoastHucker]

... I've already seen the patent application, it's called DW-DWS (Dynamic Wheel System)

Giant has already implemented this feature on their current lineup...

 

['size]

might wanna wait on that, DW is working on some crazy new technology wheel. Apparently he's figured out a way to make a wheel and tire system that dynamically changes diameter depending on trail conditions, whether you're ascending or descending, if your kit has a matching colorway, and how much e-steez you have. I've already seen the patent application, it's called DW-DWS (Dynamic Wheel System)

but is there 'prior artwork' ?

 

[wiscodh]

but is there 'prior artwork' ?

ask brad flynn

 

[jonKranked]

but is there 'prior artwork' ?

Beatles "Yellow Submarine" had something like it.

 

[Bikael Molton]

super nice

 

[MinorThreat]

might wanna wait on that, DW is working on some crazy new technology wheel. Apparently he's figured out a way to make a wheel and tire system that dynamically changes diameter depending on trail conditions, whether you're ascending or descending, if your kit has a matching colorway, and how much e-steez you have. I've already seen the patent application, it's called DW-DWS (Dynamic Wheel System)

 

[chillindrdude]

small update...
installed a BOS Deville TRC 27.5.

I've ridden it for about 2 months now. Buttery smooth. No discernable stiction at start of travel. Small washboard / high frequency chatter are virtually gone, but no mid-stroke wallow. Feels controlled for middle-sized hits and ramps up nicely as it nears full travel for those big ones. 20mm TA makes a positive difference compared to the 15mm IMHO. It feels like a downhill fork in terms of its smoothness and bottomless feel.

Things to do are...upgrade to XX1 or X01, RF Next SL cranks, DBair cs and prob ditching the chainguide altogether.

 

[SCARY]

Youll ditch the chainguide until the chain ditches you.

You can take it off...just dont get rid of it.Unless you ride like an xc girl now.

 

[kazlx]

That makes me happy in my pants.

 

[Dogboy]

Youll ditch the chainguide until the chain ditches you.

You can take it off...just dont get rid of it.Unless you ride like an xc girl now.

Sounds like you haven't ridden XX1. The chain doesn't drop. Not anywhere you could ride a bike like this (not a DH bike).

 

[Uncle Cliffy]

Just curious of the axle to crown measurement on the Deville?

 

[jonKranked]

Sounds like you haven't ridden XX1. The chain doesn't drop. Not anywhere you could ride a bike like this (not a DH bike).

it's been done.

 

[frorider]

the more I ride the bronson C, the more convinced I am that I'll be using it for longer than I typically own a frame. as a result, I am contemplating the xfusion revel next year. true story.

 

[Sandwich]

I really dig the bronson. makes a good candidate for "one bike".

 

[Dogboy]

it's been done.

What's been done? A chain has been dropped? I'm sure, but it's a rare occurance (never for me in the 9 months I've been riding it). I have a chainguide ready to go if it becomes an issue, but so far it's been flawless.

 

[OGRipper]

I've been riding XX1 without a guide on my bronson since May and I have not dropped a chain once. That includes a bunch of high speed, pedal-through-the-rocks stuff in the Sierras, like Downieville, Lakes Basin, etc. At first I was basically trying to get a derailment but couldn't do it. It's also a total joy to ride and own - totally quiet, easy to keep clean, etc.

That stuff is legit.

 

[FlipSide]

^^^^^ Same experience with my XX1.

Super reliable, easy to clean, and I have never dropped a chain this season. If my frame had ISCG tabs, I'd certainly have this MRP XCG taco guard for extra protection. It doesn't, so my chainring is exposed.

Another option is to use a N/W chainring other than XX1 on a standard crank and simply use a bashguard. I think the XCG taco is a better option.