Able One=Bullit w/ 1.5 HT
- Thread starter Evel Monkey
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Why not just buy a Gemini...almost the same design...made in the USA...just as strong and durable if not more...and has a 1.5" HT stock...
Tom
Tom
or an AS-X, they're a couple hundred clams less to boot.
I happen to like their Horst bike much better, except the 11 pound weight. And Turner and Knolly said they couldn't get 7" out of a "traditional" setup, while these guys claim 7.25". Interesting.
geometry ABLE FOUR
Frame Size S M L
Material Al 7020 Al 7020 Al 7020
Seat Tube D 440 470 510
Top Tube C 560 590 620
Head Tube 1 1/8 - 130 1 1/8 - 130 1 1/8 - 130
Head angle B 67 67 67
Seat angle A 70 70 70
Travel - mm 185 185 185
Weight-frame 4900 g 5000 g 5200 g
Chainstay E 444 444 444
Wheelbase G 1105 1135 1165
BB height + F 37 37 37
Seat post diam. 29 mm 29 mm 29 mm
geometry ABLE FOUR
Frame Size S M L
Material Al 7020 Al 7020 Al 7020
Seat Tube D 440 470 510
Top Tube C 560 590 620
Head Tube 1 1/8 - 130 1 1/8 - 130 1 1/8 - 130
Head angle B 67 67 67
Seat angle A 70 70 70
Travel - mm 185 185 185
Weight-frame 4900 g 5000 g 5200 g
Chainstay E 444 444 444
Wheelbase G 1105 1135 1165
BB height + F 37 37 37
Seat post diam. 29 mm 29 mm 29 mm
Not quite sure what you mean, Knolly's V-Tach has 7.3". Also it doesnt mean they are following the same strict concepts as Turner or Knolly would; just because it 'looks' similar, it doesnt mean the actual mecanics are, suspension design is alot more subtle than that. There could be comprimises there you just arent aware of.
Ummm, I had a 7in RFX that worked great
proving that it can be doneKnolly uses a secondary linkage to work his magic around the seat tube, and after seeing Turner's Highline mock-up at Interbike he's going to have to do something too. Turner actually said the Lucky7, or a 7" RFX was too tough to do. As for calling that Elan "traditional" I just meant pivots attached normally (rocker pivot on seat tube, etc), no secondary linkages or whacked out seat angles (though 70 is a bit shallow) and a pretty traditional front triangle. I'm not commenting on the ride characteristics for two reasons: 1- I'm no suspension engineer, and 2- I assume everything rides like poo until after I try it.
My 7in travel RFX rode just as great as my 6in RFX did, BB height wasnt out of wack, neither were angles, it was just like the 6in RFX everyone loves, but with one more inch o travel. Actually it was closer to 7 1/8
ahh, ok....yeah the limit is around 7" if you want shorter chainstay lengths a 26" wheels, the wheel and rocker just gets in the way. My modded Stinky with the bent seat tube could get no more than 7" with a standard tire
not to mention when it breaks, which it will, each stay is $400 to replace, because the lifetime warranty lasts the lifetime of that exact version of the frame (1 year)
chainstay is 17.7 with a 15.8 BB height (raising the BB height is another way of gaining clearance).
Elan is a ski company, but at least THEY are pursuing FR....unlike some other who was at one time on the verge of the whole FR thing waaaay early. Zero Gravity...remember them? I think the SHANDRO does........
Other than the leverage ratio (I'm heavy) that bike looks great. For me I'd have to figure another $550 into that bike build for an Avalanche as I wouldn't trust anything else to hold up for me.
Did you sell those plates with the bike? Does your machining friend still have the drawing for them?