just try not paying your federal income tax and using that as a defense....
!!!Actually I saw a documentary that was about the income tax. Don't remember much of it (maybe I just saw a part of it) but it said you 'mericans don't have to pay it. It was in your constitution or something.just try not paying your federal income tax and using that as a defense....
have fun in federal butt-pound prision.
Right, there are other ways to pay taxes, but in the end, it's the people who fund the govt. So does it absolutely matter how the funds are generated?
if you watch till about the 30 minute mark youll see where they outline how our roads and infrastructure are funded. one of the ex-irs guys made a good point that they ran the government fine until 1913 without the federal income tax. the video is good after about the first 6 minutes it gets better.
right but his point is that we are being taxed to earn a wage which is a little rediculous. i mean i am paying to work. and further more if the government is supported by my living wages when can i write them off as dependants?
Ok, so the system is flawed, but the video's first five minutes really turned me off with his "sky is falling" approach. It suggests that our enemy is our own govt, which is just retarded.
they didnt until 1913 though?......seriously though the video gets much better.....
The Fed Govt obviously got money from somewhere previously... where and how?
im not sure but i wish it wasnt from the money that i earn.
thing is, it is from the money you earn, regardless of the source.
i oppose consumption tax, on several grounds.
Dont you think you ought to be sure of such a thing before taking the stance you have? You're opposed to something having no idea of the alternative.
Yeah, but the scope of government programs and social services has expanded since that time. Not to mention the amount of defense spending and the sophistication and related costs of our armed forces. There's a reason that the government needs more money than it did in previous centuries.
I was just referencing one kind of tax since we have to pay somehow. As for sales tax being the only tax, Florida's state govt is run strictly on sales tax, so it can be done.
That's just America for you.
Yeah, these days poor management means these are costing you money.
did i ever say i had a solution? nope. did i ever say i have any answers? nope. Am i sure i am tired of having my money taken for whatever reason? yep. A stance must begin somewhere and my stance however not providing of answers it may be is still my stance. When i do have all the answers you will certainly be the first to get the memo.
What Im saying is that you're not taking the time to make a well-thought-out decision on a position, or at least, it doesnt seem so. Being taxed is the only real way for the govt. to get money anymore, so its a necessary evil. That's the reality of the situation. There arent any better answers than that. Of course, I agree that Id like to see the money better spent, but as it stands, I personally wouldnt mind being taxed a bit more if it were for a good cause. We actually have it pretty good, relatively speaking.
You react strongly to this "sky is falling" because it is a VERY serious thing and because it is something that goes totaly against your current views of the situation. But seriously, you have to give them the chanse to explain their view even though its a wooping 110min long.
They explained this in the film. They used the word trading (our worktime for money).
The most important reason not to pay federal income taxes, save lives!!!
They adress this in the film, and I can tell you without giving you a direct example that most **** you need is paid through state taxes.
And another thing to take into consideration is the money the government (that means YOU) loose because it doesn't print and control the money. Interests have to be paid to the Federal Reserve Bank, which is privately owned by unknown banks/people!!!
Actually a big part of the financing could be done if the country owned the right to "create money out of nothing" which now the privately owned Federal Reserve does. The interests would go to the state who would not need to so high tax revenues as now (This was also in the film).
Still, don't you think the government have to follow the law, in this case the constitution? There is no law that says that you have to pay a federal income tax. That is the law!
Don't fully understand what you mean by this, but as I pointed out above you taxpayers are missing out on the biggest means of income to a privately owned company.
The heavy title of the documentary gets adressed about 1,09h into the film!
Hell yeah, governments can own businesses. The most profitable company in Sweden is a 100% state owned mining company.
US govt. for-profit compaines generally suck. For instance, Am-track has been in the red forever. Also, the US postal service is a bit profitable but not much. US logging/mining/drilling is all privately owned to my knowledge, and without further EXPANDING the government to include such enterprises there's no way to make that transition, and with the way US gov't programs work, I doubt they'd even be profitable enough to be worthwhile. Just my opinion.
Same here, I just gave an example. Didn't know you had state owned for-profit companies in the US.
It's nice to be able to make the tax laws for the business you happen to own
Yes, I was trying to trigger you among others who serve/have served.What does that have to do with anything? Are you taunting me
I been out a while.
