I think a better question is, at what point do we stop creating division within the ranks of people who just want to get kicks on two wheels?
Do you like being labeled?
Do you like being labeled?
At what point do we acknowledge it's a different sport?
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at what point is it motherfvckin' booze time?
anytime!?
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You don't pay attention. There are a lot of old faces at the us top 10 but most of them weren't top10 some time ago. Also where were Yannik Grannieri, Mehdi Ghani, Biembe, Szymon Godziek, Sam Raynolds, Mike Montgommery, McGarry 2 years ago? Bass, Lacon and McDermont are nowhere near as dominant as they were some time ago. Yes less people compete in ss and dirt for fun because you either can do the jump or not. No half assed riding is possible so in 1 year a specific group of riders dominate.
Also for the 20 people do it - FMBA claims 39 people have started this year already and there are a lot of big names missing. Add a lot of strong locals who do crazy stuff and I think the number is much bigger.
http://fmbworldtour.com/ranking-results/
Well there are a lot of people that use bikes like the Santacruz 4x as a trail bike.
Also, as I was stating, this bike would not accellerate out of the gates well for DS or 4X... something that IS in the target audience for a bike of this travel/geometry.
Looking at the video, it seems to me that the bike is marketed toward people who want to ride big jumps? After all it is named after Paul B, and he doesn't do much racin.
As they say down south of the border: Ahora.
You guys live under a rock. That bike has been around for going on four years now. 
At what point do we acknowledge that this thread is wack?
its a question riders will always ask - is it a different sport?
I can only answer from my own experience.....my typical day off work
today:
-I went mountain biking all morning in my local woods, on a bike with 26" wheels running 35psi in knobbly tires, 160mm front suspension / 145mm rear suspension and front/rear hydraulic disc brakes
then stopped for a lunch break....
-I went bmx riding all afternoon in my local concrete skatepark, on a bike with 20" wheels running 100psi in semi-slick tires, no suspension and 1 rear u-brake
its all riding, but the bike is different to best suit the environment I am riding...
slopestyle? I've owned numerous DJ (24" and 26" wheels) and 4X hardtails and 4X / SS full suspension bikes and it was all riding
some of these bikes were sold on, after local trails were destroyed in conflicts, all were fun to ride though!
Most modern SS specific bikes are not targeting 4x or DS. They are dirt jump bikes with rear suspension, not racing machines.
dude are you seriously talking about this bike to go uphill? kona has other bikes for that...this is a very purpose built machine.Ok, so I have one more comment about this bike. Yeah, the Grom's will be all over it bc of the image thing and it might be good for "gravity" runs, but I have MAJOR issues with the susp design if you are gonna pedal up to get your downs. Having that lower pivot placed around the Bottombracket is gonna make it bob all over the place. It has been done before...
Same design as the Arrow DS-3
I'll admit that bike (I owned one and then sold to Sandwich) was a ton of fun when pointed down, but climbs like crud and accelerates out of the "gates" poorly (so no bueno for DS or 4x). Actually, the DS-3 might be even BETTER for slopestyle bc with the 24in rear wheel design the rear stays are VERY short.
And i have to add my close friend and I did some loooong epics he on his Cowan, never caused him a problem.
You guys live under a rock. That bike has been around for going on four years now.
LOL...
Since our sport is the BEST SPORT EVER INVENTED, what we should do is rename the OTHER ones to:
- Motorized Mountainbiking
- 20in wheel Mountainbiking and
- Road-mountainbiking
did you just right up a math calculation for labeling types of bikers?street/dj bmx:dj mtb::bmx:4x::motoH
if slopestyle is now considered bmx than slope style riders cant ride red bull rampage.
I think the reason slopestyle is more like mtb than bmx is because slopestyle came about from MTBers messing around on dj bikes and ds bikes. rather than BMXers grabbing a MTN bike and trying tricks. All pro (or most atleast) slopestyle riders started as freeride mtbers.
all slopestyle bikes are purpose built MTN bikes. We are just beging to see even more purpose built parts even down to the frames. They are ridden on a MTN.
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Lets be serious here... This bike is NOT targeting Slopestyle riders. They would all build purpose driven custom rigs with specific components.
THIS bike is targeting WANNA-BE slopestyle riders. So maybe it is pointless for me to even put energy into critiquing it. As I said above, this bike is for the newest class of sam-hill fanclub wannabees.
THIS bike is targeting WANNA-BE slopestyle riders. So maybe it is pointless for me to even put energy into critiquing it. As I said above, this bike is for the newest class of sam-hill fanclub wannabees.
Not true.
As someone who owns a bike like this i find it to be a devilish good time killing dirtjumps.
My Killswitch has 100mm travel and singlespeed yet it makes this old school non fan boy hucker feel like hooligan.
Pretty awesome actually.
I don't know too many dudes like that. Either you do it or you get hurt until you can or give up.Lets be serious here... This bike is NOT targeting Slopestyle riders. They would all build purpose driven custom rigs with specific components.
THIS bike is targeting WANNA-BE slopestyle riders. So maybe it is pointless for me to even put energy into critiquing it. As I said above, this bike is for the newest class of sam-hill fanclub wannabees.
If you want to hate that's os your thinkg but the company that I do some part time fork for released a SS bike last year and it has been hugely popular. Which is funny as the team riders ride their HT's more. Not to mention I rode one and it is pure joy to ride one. Reread my post - a fun bike made for dirtjump, pumptracks and some mellower park trails for people who dont want a derail. In my opinion such bike doesn't have to pedal well when you are not a racer (how many people do you know that race 4x?).Lets be serious here... This bike is NOT targeting Slopestyle riders. They would all build purpose driven custom rigs with specific components.
THIS bike is targeting WANNA-BE slopestyle riders. So maybe it is pointless for me to even put energy into critiquing it. As I said above, this bike is for the newest class of sam-hill fanclub wannabees.
Also yes I agree a bike like a banshee rampant will be more versatile but for people with no connection to the mountains a bb ss bike makes sense.
It's a bit different in yurp. A lot of riders here come into ss from urban areas with no fr or dh and only dirt jumps. They still ride mountain bikes but I notice a trend like it here. For me slopestyle comps are dirtjump pro if you know what I mean
Ya, can't we all just agree that it is ALL EVO-biking?
Aw look......somebody got old.THIS bike is targeting WANNA-BE slopestyle riders. So maybe it is pointless for me to even put energy into critiquing it. As I said above, this bike is for the newest class of sam-hill fanclub wannabees.
These bikes definitely serve a purpose. Just because you can't ride them in one of the manners for which they were designed doesn't mean other people can't.
It's been done to death, but I still love it because quietbike.
Woody for teh w1n.
Bicycles are cool.
Edit: Woody Itson?
Bicycles are cool.
Edit: Woody Itson?
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I cant ride it in any manner for which it was designed, but I still like it.Aw look......somebody got old.
These bikes definitely serve a purpose. Just because you can't ride them in one of the manners for which they were designed doesn't mean other people can't.
I don't like unicycles, unicorns or unibrows tho I find them amusing.
Hit me with your best shot!
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Yes, but would you want to build up your own with the parts you want (or maybe a mix of old parts from other bikes and some new stuff) or would you buy a complete one like this?
I have no issue with Singlespeed DJ'rs (with susp). I'm only commenting that the around the BB pivot is less than optimal and that a LOT of fanboi's will be riding this.
That picture just saved this thread.
And that's somehow worse than the immediate spike in demo 8 sales over the last three years, even though the bikes didn't really change that much?
I've got a spec SX that I ride on *gasp* big ass jumps that are definitely in the realm of 'slopestyle'. I'd be stoked if it were a concentric BB pivot because I'd love to run it singlespeed and get rid of a bunch of drivetrain stuff that I don't really need. That doesn't make me a 'fanboi' that makes me 'wishing for a pratical change'.
Here's a buddy of mine killing it on a 2009 kona Bass last year.......the exact same bike that's giving you so much trouble for some reason.
He's actually riding it, does that make him a fanboi or just a guy having fun on an appropriate tool for what he's doing? How about when he takes that same bike on trail rides which he says he does? You honestly seem to the only one that even cares. I promise you this guy doesn't have a poster of paul bas on his wall that he kisses and says good night to every evening
Yes but 90% of people don't feel the differnace because they run very little sag on them and a singlespeed is simple. Not everyone has their bike geek turned up to 11 like we do here on RM
Well... my LBS just started doing just that.
That price actually isn't too nutty if shipped to your work address......
Those pics are pretty funny though.
I went to Fanatik just a couple of weeks ago. Place is dialled, that's a hell of a service
I just peed a little.