EPO is better.
ATF in diesel fuel?
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"ATF" is a broad term these days. As mentioned some have friction modifiers and other enhancers. But for the most part, as I'm sure most of you know, ATF is just a lubricant. And a very good one at that. It won't combust or burn. I know people who have done this very thing for decades with no ill effects. Granted, those were not spanking new DMAX engines with bells and whistles galore.
One of these guys I know drives an old VW that he runs on jet fuel because he gets it for free. He just mixes it with ATF to act as a lubricant and he says it runs no different than diesel ever did.
So the idea that you just absolutely can not and should not ever do this because it's bad and "I said so I work on these things" is an attempt to apply your specific experience with a very broad science. Does it help the OP's truck? Maybe not and you have insight into that. But can it help other diesel engines? The answer is without a doubt, yes.
One of these guys I know drives an old VW that he runs on jet fuel because he gets it for free. He just mixes it with ATF to act as a lubricant and he says it runs no different than diesel ever did.
So the idea that you just absolutely can not and should not ever do this because it's bad and "I said so I work on these things" is an attempt to apply your specific experience with a very broad science. Does it help the OP's truck? Maybe not and you have insight into that. But can it help other diesel engines? The answer is without a doubt, yes.
go 5 inch turbo back, afe stage two dry intake, and a H&S mini maxx tuner, might want a intercooler pipe as wellAs soon as I get back from racing in Angel Fire I'm having a local shop do a 4" full exhaust. I already have an AIRAID intake and saving for a tuner
Yes, people use it as a cleaner for lifters and such, it works, seen it work myself with noisy lifters that just wont pump up..... Risalone does exactly the same thing though.
On the note of the friction modifiers, thats the part were this gets to be a problem, starting with dex3, they have all had some type of friction modification. This is the stuff that doesnt burn, but instead gums up the pistons, injectors, injection pump ETC...
Transmission fluid does indeed burn and is combustable, used in the old style heaters many times. It is far from just a lubricant, the lubricant side of it is a side effect actualy, ATF, is a hydraulic fluid, that is in fact its main purpose.
Just like additives designed for this purpose, it still has to be done correctly with one that works.... that would be old school type f.....
Still illeagal being it is not designed to be used in this manor, still tints the fuel red which is a whole other list of reasons why not to........
If your not set on it being a terrible lubricant, talk to my coworker who used to use dex for air tool oil......... Ask him about what kind of condition his tools were in after two years.
Ah, so your more looking for Ctane additivies, and parfin control then....
Ha, I think we all know that feeling
A few comments from a hradcore diesel geek:
Dont use ATF. Since the introduction of ULSD in 2007 (less sulphur less lubrication) the best thing for pre 07 trucks is 1oz/per gallon of low ash 2 stroke oil that you can get from walmart. ITs branded as Tcw3 on the bottle.
All the other diesel additives may clean the fuel system and boost cetane but alomost all of them contain alocohol as a solvent and so you are NOT lubricating the injectors which is the main point b/c they cost an arm and a leg to replace.
About a year ago one of the top diesel mags did an all out test of every additive that can be used and thats the bottom line.
As far as other mods , 4" downpipe and exhaust is plenty good un less your start doing really serious mods like bigger turbos and start spraying drugs to light the turbo sooner.
I could go on and on but thats really is the bottom line.
I know GFF knows his sh!t but so do i. I have towed a 34' 14k lbs 5th wheel all over the states during a 2 year trip in my 04 6.0 .
The best value exhaust is MBRP best tuners are SCT with custom tunes by far.
If you dont "need" a diesel F-250 , 2500 then please dont get one. They are expensive to maintain and repair and the latest ones have so much electronics is getting close to space shuttle absurdity.
Dont use ATF. Since the introduction of ULSD in 2007 (less sulphur less lubrication) the best thing for pre 07 trucks is 1oz/per gallon of low ash 2 stroke oil that you can get from walmart. ITs branded as Tcw3 on the bottle.
All the other diesel additives may clean the fuel system and boost cetane but alomost all of them contain alocohol as a solvent and so you are NOT lubricating the injectors which is the main point b/c they cost an arm and a leg to replace.
About a year ago one of the top diesel mags did an all out test of every additive that can be used and thats the bottom line.
As far as other mods , 4" downpipe and exhaust is plenty good un less your start doing really serious mods like bigger turbos and start spraying drugs to light the turbo sooner.
I could go on and on but thats really is the bottom line.
I know GFF knows his sh!t but so do i. I have towed a 34' 14k lbs 5th wheel all over the states during a 2 year trip in my 04 6.0 .
The best value exhaust is MBRP best tuners are SCT with custom tunes by far.
If you dont "need" a diesel F-250 , 2500 then please dont get one. They are expensive to maintain and repair and the latest ones have so much electronics is getting close to space shuttle absurdity.
Haha, my truck has only towed a 12ft open trailer with 4 motorcycles in it
I do plan on getting a trailer though, haha.
For those unsure.... tcw3 would be marine grade 2cycle oil.......
If you still have a cat.... dont use it, itll foul the cats..... well that would be a california statement these days...
I give up