From myth to actual bike:
http://www.dropmachine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30948
looks like a fun toy!
http://www.dropmachine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30948
looks like a fun toy!
Banshee Legend
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Weight? Is this part of the first bikes to consumers?
This is probably the 3rd frame to be assembled.
The bike is already Pan-American champion in both Elite and Junior classes, with Markolf Berchtold and Marcelo Guitierez.
I had the chance to take the first proto in my hands and it´s really impressive, very light for a full blown DH machine and Markolf said it´s the most stable bike he has ever ridden (he raced for Globar Racing Team with an Orange 223, for Maxxis MSC with the F2.0, F3.0 and F4.0).
This is his bike:
The bike is already Pan-American champion in both Elite and Junior classes, with Markolf Berchtold and Marcelo Guitierez.
I had the chance to take the first proto in my hands and it´s really impressive, very light for a full blown DH machine and Markolf said it´s the most stable bike he has ever ridden (he raced for Globar Racing Team with an Orange 223, for Maxxis MSC with the F2.0, F3.0 and F4.0).
This is his bike:
because its not
thats a crap load of machining around the shock area
i bet that wont be cheap to manufacture on a larger scale.
Is it safe to say that frame is one of the prototypes rather then an earlier version
of the consumer product?
Looks good though
i bet that wont be cheap to manufacture on a larger scale.
Is it safe to say that frame is one of the prototypes rather then an earlier version
of the consumer product?
Looks good though
i was impreseed with the machine work. being a machinst that is : p
Can we see some non-Spike Lee angled shots?
I love my cobbled together tank. It is indestructable.
I was gonna say...my bud is still banging one around and it's gettin it done. I can't imagine what he could do on something 15 lbs lighter with REAL geo! Let's see...16" BB height, Fox Vanilla shock(MIGHT be an R!), and a high 60+ degree HA with a 888?!
Whatever, I'm riding an "ideal" bike for DH and he's beating the crap out of me!
i must say too i love my cobbled tank too she has gotten me home many times.
I can understand the need for the extensive machining - its the only reasonable way to get the pivots and shock mount where they want to get the leverage/wheelpath/etc they want without have some crazy honking tube set. Frankly I think the frame is gorgeous and I really want to ride one based geo's I have seen. Than, and the VERY early ride reports (which maybe not be reliable). Just being a little skeptical but I like what I see so far.
The machining is that detailed because it's still being CNC'd, the final production versions I believe will be using forgings instead (or at least that was the original plan, that might have ended up being too expensive for all I know).
I do have one question though: where the f**k is mine?!
I do have one question though: where the f**k is mine?!
Sometimes the costs of the molds for forging parts is only worth it, if you are selling a certain quantity, below that quantity it is cheaper to CNC (economies of scale). Furthermore, being that the first year they want to make only 50 frames and have the right people racing/riding on them leads me to believe that they might do it later but for now it is probably cost prohibitive.The machining is that detailed because it's still being CNC'd, the final production versions I believe will be using forgings instead (or at least that was the original plan, that might have ended up being too expensive for all I know).
I do have one question though: where the f**k is mine?!
Yeah precisely, this is what Keith (builttoride) said too. The molds apparently cost like US$100k+ each... that'd be $2000 per frame for the first run!
That's why the frames are 3g's.
The billet alone is a couple hundred dollars, plus 6-10hrs machine time. Even in Asia, that ain't cheap.
I remember seeing the original demo 9 proto - all billet. Same with the Rocky flatlines.
canfield jedi? looks really similar
WOW! That frame is very impressive! I'd like to see a comprehensive review on it's ride characteristics.
My Legend:
Built it up today...
Sub 40lbs...
My Parts List:
Mavic 729 on Hadleys F&B or for FRO wheel set (DT Swiss FR2350)
FOx 40 RC2 (Using Ben's at the moment while waiting for mine. Thanks Ben)
Thompson Elite Seatpost and Stem
SDG Seat
ODI Grips (Is there any other?)
XTR rear shifter
'08 XT brakeset
Deity Dirty 30s
Ultegra 9 sp RD
SRAM cassette
Maxxis Minnions DHF on front and Back
FSA Gravity Lights 165mm (83mm - will be for sale soon) - to be replaced with Middleburn Crankset
Atomlab Aircorps Pedals
E-13 LG-1 chainguide
FSA PIG headset
Built it up today...
Sub 40lbs...
My Parts List:
Mavic 729 on Hadleys F&B or for FRO wheel set (DT Swiss FR2350)
FOx 40 RC2 (Using Ben's at the moment while waiting for mine. Thanks Ben)
Thompson Elite Seatpost and Stem
SDG Seat
ODI Grips (Is there any other?)
XTR rear shifter
'08 XT brakeset
Deity Dirty 30s
Ultegra 9 sp RD
SRAM cassette
Maxxis Minnions DHF on front and Back
FSA Gravity Lights 165mm (83mm - will be for sale soon) - to be replaced with Middleburn Crankset
Atomlab Aircorps Pedals
E-13 LG-1 chainguide
FSA PIG headset
yeah... looks good... but more importantly, feels good!!! The ribs, maybe 2 weeks away...
redride your bike is gorgeous i want. if iever find the time to build and race or ride on a regular base this would be the frame i think. im on my second banshee frame the first was hit by a car and hel up my morphine is great
thanks cencalballer...
the rear is soo stiff its crazy. i can easily take it down to 37lbs. its now already sub 40 without much effort. Standover height is crazy! all in all, its a crazy bike!!!
Cant wait to unleash it on the DH track!!!
the rear is soo stiff its crazy. i can easily take it down to 37lbs. its now already sub 40 without much effort. Standover height is crazy! all in all, its a crazy bike!!!
Cant wait to unleash it on the DH track!!!
when you do make sure to get video and pics i wanna see it in action
its actually a 9.5x3.0
its now on the 7" setting because i am having problems with the LG1 boomerang... need to get new chainguid...
its now on the 7" setting because i am having problems with the LG1 boomerang... need to get new chainguid...
am i the only one that finds this absolutely hilarious?
Nope, making fun of cheap Jews a long time American tradition.
Er yeah, or Karpiel ripoff, or PDC ripoff, or World Force ripoff, or Trek ripoff, or any-number-of-other-vaguely-similar-looking-bikes ripoff. It doesn't copy or infringe the DW-link patents because despite having a vaguely similar looking layout, the performance characteristics are significantly different. The axle path is more rearwards and the centre of curvature position and motion is completely different to any DW-link bike for starters. How do I know? Because obviously unlike yourself, I've read the patents and mapped both the Legend and the Sunday out. I also happen to be one of the few people who've ridden both, and I can verify that the ride characteristics are noticeably different.
In short: kindly shut your trap when you have no idea what you're talking about.
I imagine Woody Allen's voice when I read that post.
Haha well spotted. That's bloody hilarious.
Some of the people above need to get a sense of humour. Over PC tossers.
Ahh, a man after my own heart... He speaks the truth. The devil is in the details (and IC position).
How about a ride report then?!