best bang for your buck dh bike $3100
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Worth a test ride/demo.
More reputable.......totally agree.
More race proven...........totally disagree.
Transition has never been known for making race bikes. In fact they even mention that this is the first race bike they have made. It isn't even available to the masses yet so I don't see how it can be proven. There are only a handful riders on it, if that, and they are paid to say nice things about it. The TR450 looks like it has mad potential and given the companies past history I would give it a shot. But I wouldn't go as far as to say it is Race Proven when it hasn't even been available for a single race season yet.
Now, with that being said, I would still pay the additional money for the TR450 over this bike based on Transition's reputation alone. It is much less of a gamble, especially since it looks like they took the design right off the Ventana El Cuervo and that was a bitch'n bike.
I thought everyone around here was kona haters?local bike shop sold the stab to me for $2700.00 brand new with a camelback mule, 2 pair of gloves, a hoodie,spare tubes, and a baseball cap. bang bang
Nice bikes, I have a coiler in the same colors as yours, works for me.
It's cheaper but so are the components.local bike shop sold the stab to me for $2700.00 brand new with a camelback mule, 2 pair of gloves, a hoodie,spare tubes, and a baseball cap. bang bang
Sheewt with the Ventana El Cuervo being blown out at $1295 with an Elka we'll have complete bikes with a Boxxer Team and Gravity kits for $3500, and remaning DHR's are $3700.
Spam over. I'm going to drink egg nog at gradmas house.
Spam over. I'm going to drink egg nog at gradmas house.
I'm happy to let anything that I work on stand on it's own. If it's no good, OK, I can deal with that, the next one will be better. Reputation is only as good as your last project as far as I'm concerned.You guys crack me up, if dw helped create this design, it would be the best ever.
Plus, if I made it, I think I would have done away with the extra seatstays and link and just made it like the Devinci Wilson. Seems like a lighter way to do things but hey, what do I know. If this bike gets more kids into DH because of it's low price then I am all for it.
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Your too good for us. You need to go to rotorburn.com.
ewww ventana is gross. I'd rather ride a jamis.Sheewt with the Ventana El Cuervo being blown out at $1295 with an Elka we'll have complete bikes with a Boxxer Team and Gravity kits for $3500, and remaning DHR's are $3700.
Spam over. I'm going to drink egg nog at gradmas house.
This is what you get when you mate a 2004 Karpiel Disco with a 2004 Turner DHR
yea i hear all the hater bs about the kona's, who cares!! i get to the bottom of where ever im riding (diablo, platty, whiteface, blue mt.) fast, maintenence free, and smiling ear to ear.I thought everyone around here was kona haters?
Nice bikes, I have a coiler in the same colors as yours, works for me.
as for cheaper components, if your not casing every jump, or drop you hit, and you can flo through rock gardens well does it really matter
they actually feel pretty stellar...i'm always rather shocked when i ride one.
Ok, Guys, it seems they (YT) are going to sell these bikes.
They look good. Specs/prices are quite amazing, IMO.
http://www.yt-industries.com/shop/index.php?page=categorie&cat=1
In addition, can someone translate and summarize?
http://freecaster.tv/mtb/1011363/yt-industries
They look good. Specs/prices are quite amazing, IMO.
http://www.yt-industries.com/shop/index.php?page=categorie&cat=1
In addition, can someone translate and summarize?
http://freecaster.tv/mtb/1011363/yt-industries
YES a new Mondraker Kaiser!!!
tues = tu es (german) = do it
The Mongoose Boot'R is the one of the most solidly built DH rigs for $3K going right now. If you need an affordable, good performing bike it is hard to beat it.
The frame is pretty much trouble free (nothing is 100%). I wouldn't say this about the early Mongoose offerings but the Boot'R is dialed. If you race consider..won Aussie DH Natl's last year (Mic Hannah) and Aussie series overall (Josh Button), and wunder kid Troy Brosnan from down under rode these for a few succesfull seasons before riding the big S.
If big huck fests are your gig, Romo and Buehler have beat the crap out of them for 2 season and the bikes hold up. Go watch Stund to see what these guys do to these frames.
If budget is one of your parameters yet you are still yearning for high level performance get the Goose loose.
I've been working for Mongoose for a few years so my opinion IS biased but I have a reputation for telling it like it is too.
I don't normally chime in on these forums but looking for a bike for a good price has been my game for a while.
good luck with whatever you go with.
The frame is pretty much trouble free (nothing is 100%). I wouldn't say this about the early Mongoose offerings but the Boot'R is dialed. If you race consider..won Aussie DH Natl's last year (Mic Hannah) and Aussie series overall (Josh Button), and wunder kid Troy Brosnan from down under rode these for a few succesfull seasons before riding the big S.
If big huck fests are your gig, Romo and Buehler have beat the crap out of them for 2 season and the bikes hold up. Go watch Stund to see what these guys do to these frames.
If budget is one of your parameters yet you are still yearning for high level performance get the Goose loose.
I've been working for Mongoose for a few years so my opinion IS biased but I have a reputation for telling it like it is too.
I don't normally chime in on these forums but looking for a bike for a good price has been my game for a while.
good luck with whatever you go with.
eh...id take it
hey,
to help u out wat they say in the vid.
they 1st tell us the moto of the company, that they want high quality bikes to enable riders young and old to enter the sport with low costs. they then tell us how the frame is made, it is produced in taiwan, like most frames out there, and how they r proud of working with the taiwanes as they produce high quality and very strong welding and frames. they tell us the exact procedure of the frame making, what materials and techniques are used. they tell us how they work with their sponsored riders to produce a great bike from biker for bikers.
in the end they tell us how they manage to keep the prices of the bikes so low, they have every bike in one colour and in one kit only, this lowers costs of painting and the storing of componenets, they dont have any dealers, u buy the bike from them directly so no costs of any dealers.
the YT industry has another company apart from YT which is called sponsoree,
it is baisacly the german/european Hookit
( http://www.sponsoree.com )
ps.
i am from germany and i will buy this bike next month apx.
i think its a amazing bike with great components and im sure that it isnt fragile at all, + u have a 2 year warranty.
and even if u hav a bad crash that breaks the frame, they sell u a new 1 for half of the price! for the tues :
original price: 1299
price for new frame if u broke the old 1: 649
i dont think any other company would give u such a deal, and even if u dont like the frame, u can get an other 1 after and still get out with a great deal!
also the german mtb magz show how gr8 their bikes r, they always get a 9/10 or 10/10 for their bikes hav a look on the YT web, u will find pdf.s of them on their
1ce i get the new tues ill let u know how it is, show u sum pics and vids
to help u out wat they say in the vid.
they 1st tell us the moto of the company, that they want high quality bikes to enable riders young and old to enter the sport with low costs. they then tell us how the frame is made, it is produced in taiwan, like most frames out there, and how they r proud of working with the taiwanes as they produce high quality and very strong welding and frames. they tell us the exact procedure of the frame making, what materials and techniques are used. they tell us how they work with their sponsored riders to produce a great bike from biker for bikers.
in the end they tell us how they manage to keep the prices of the bikes so low, they have every bike in one colour and in one kit only, this lowers costs of painting and the storing of componenets, they dont have any dealers, u buy the bike from them directly so no costs of any dealers.
the YT industry has another company apart from YT which is called sponsoree,
it is baisacly the german/european Hookit
( http://www.sponsoree.com )
ps.
i am from germany and i will buy this bike next month apx.
i think its a amazing bike with great components and im sure that it isnt fragile at all, + u have a 2 year warranty.
and even if u hav a bad crash that breaks the frame, they sell u a new 1 for half of the price! for the tues :
original price: 1299
price for new frame if u broke the old 1: 649
i dont think any other company would give u such a deal, and even if u dont like the frame, u can get an other 1 after and still get out with a great deal!
also the german mtb magz show how gr8 their bikes r, they always get a 9/10 or 10/10 for their bikes hav a look on the YT web, u will find pdf.s of them on their
1ce i get the new tues ill let u know how it is, show u sum pics and vids
Thx for the brief translation.
However, German Bike Magazine is soo biased/focused on local market and brands, that it's opinion is not reliable for me.
I have seen Bulls', Stevens', and lots of names ppl on this forum has never heard about, better, accordingly to Bike Mag, then Scott, Spec, Trek, SC, Giant and many other major brands on the world market
I will believe that YT bike are descent, once there are several good opinions from real world users.
i dont agree with the mags being bioust, for example, in the 03/09 edition of the Freeride magazine (powered by BiKE) has a test section of 6 international slopestyle bikes. this includes Specialized SX, Kona Bass, Norco Empire 5, Corsair Koenig, Solid Flair (Ger) and the YT Noton (ger 09 edition). The true winner was Specialized SX with a 10/10, then corsair and norton with a 9.5, and the german bikes Solid and YT had a 9, the loser the kona with a 8.5/10
this should prove that the mag isnt bioust and just as professional as the mag BiKE
in the same mag they also had a test of FR bikes and again it includes international bikes like specialized and rockrider, and in this 1 the TUES (2009) got a 10/10 where the big hit only got a 7.5/10
this should prove that the mag isnt bioust and just as professional as the mag BiKE
in the same mag they also had a test of FR bikes and again it includes international bikes like specialized and rockrider, and in this 1 the TUES (2009) got a 10/10 where the big hit only got a 7.5/10
Bike and Freeride are crazy. They recently did an arcticle where in one comparison they had bikes like Yeti AS-R7 and the SX trail or the lapierre froggy which is a bit of a long shot. The ratings are based much much more on the weight (they talk about the weight in almost all of the reviews) and the components than the frames. In the end you get a review where Canyon (basicaly azonic b52/khs lucky etc) while some other prooven bikes get lower grades. And yes I know Canyon is slightly different than the other catalog frames like poison but it's not a stellar frame. Will never trust a review that promotes a bike that is lighter but has crappier compo over a solid bike with a prooven frame but with a heavier build.
YT bikes look good though. Still until I see user reviews I will not be convinced.
YT bikes look good though. Still until I see user reviews I will not be convinced.
they also mention how far u can place the seatpost down the frame, but again the mag only gives u some extra info which isnt writen in the manual of the bike... u urself r the 1 who has to decide if u like the bike or not.
well i hope i get the money soon 2 get my tues and ill give u a review as soon as i ride some DH trails
well i hope i get the money soon 2 get my tues and ill give u a review as soon as i ride some DH trails
This is what me and Norbar are talking about. German Bike Mag makes comparisons of bikes from different leagues and they come out with some silly conclusions.
What's the point of putting aside i.e. Specialized and Rockrider?! In 99% of cases Spec will be better bike... because it's a better product. Sometimes, they compare bikes with SRP different with hundreds of euros.
And sometimes, they (Bike Mag) find a bike, not even made, but just put together by some local brand and on base of some weird assumptions and criterias, they come to the conclusion that brand X bike is better than Spec, Trek, Scott, Giant, etc... brands with years of experience.
What's the point of putting aside i.e. Specialized and Rockrider?! In 99% of cases Spec will be better bike... because it's a better product. Sometimes, they compare bikes with SRP different with hundreds of euros.
And sometimes, they (Bike Mag) find a bike, not even made, but just put together by some local brand and on base of some weird assumptions and criterias, they come to the conclusion that brand X bike is better than Spec, Trek, Scott, Giant, etc... brands with years of experience.
[SPAM] I'd like to think the round tube DHR I'm selling is a better bang for $3100. [/SPAM]
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i dont think so...
the test was about Cheap Freeride bikes which included the big hit 1 (1599) and the FR6 (999) , and the YT (1699). so there is a reason for them placing these bikes.
Moreover, I can't see any freeride YT bike for 1699 eur on YT site...
Was it Noton? http://www.yt-industries.com/shop/index.php?page=product&info=6
Was it Noton? http://www.yt-industries.com/shop/index.php?page=product&info=6
more or less... in 2009 the norton was called TUES, with 180mm travel front and rear, if u want to hav a look at the mag go on (http://www.yt-industries.com/de/service/testberichte/) and on the right column (FREERIDE) the 4th in the list, thats the same page from my mag.
so i saw a new test report from the Tues DH 2010 on their website of the magazine, MTB rider magazine. u can find it (http://www.yt-industries.com/en/service/testberichte/)
for those who dont understand german i will summarise it.
in the 1st paragraph its talking about the parts of the bike. no more. the onlything interesting is that they tell us the width of the boobar 740mm (not written on the site.)
then the 2nd paragraph is about riding the bike. that there is a good amount of adjustments to the Team Fork and the vivid 5.1. they complain about that u need a Hex to adjust the Ending Stroke Rebound Adjuster (Shock).
then the 1st thing they mention that the bike has alot of sag at the rear. (kinda obv coz of its linear bike elevation in the first third of the travel).
after that they say that the bike feels very good on the track. that the rear suspension works good and doesnt cause any problems.
then that because it is a race orriented bike it has a quite low Bottom Bracket which causes it to feel good and safe on the trails but also means u hav 2 b careful u dont hit it too mux
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the next think is the tires. for the mag a bit too big (2.5) but that again depends on the taste of the riders . the last thing is that it has a big casset which isnt a racing advantage but makes it easier to pedal uphil or on the road with the bike and that there is a long seat tube again advantage for ppl who not only ride this bike DH tracks and that it can b usefull for the kids who dont hav a car and can cycle 2 the local DH trail.
"over all the bike is very good DH bike, good geo, well working rear susp. and with reliable components." thats the summary.
Advantages:
Price
good geo
good components
Disadvantages
big wheels
need hex for rear shock adjusting.
and thats is.
for those who dont understand german i will summarise it.
in the 1st paragraph its talking about the parts of the bike. no more. the onlything interesting is that they tell us the width of the boobar 740mm (not written on the site.)
then the 2nd paragraph is about riding the bike. that there is a good amount of adjustments to the Team Fork and the vivid 5.1. they complain about that u need a Hex to adjust the Ending Stroke Rebound Adjuster (Shock).
then the 1st thing they mention that the bike has alot of sag at the rear. (kinda obv coz of its linear bike elevation in the first third of the travel).
after that they say that the bike feels very good on the track. that the rear suspension works good and doesnt cause any problems.
then that because it is a race orriented bike it has a quite low Bottom Bracket which causes it to feel good and safe on the trails but also means u hav 2 b careful u dont hit it too mux
. the next think is the tires. for the mag a bit too big (2.5) but that again depends on the taste of the riders . the last thing is that it has a big casset which isnt a racing advantage but makes it easier to pedal uphil or on the road with the bike and that there is a long seat tube again advantage for ppl who not only ride this bike DH tracks and that it can b usefull for the kids who dont hav a car and can cycle 2 the local DH trail.
"over all the bike is very good DH bike, good geo, well working rear susp. and with reliable components." thats the summary.
Advantages:
Price
good geo
good components
Disadvantages
big wheels
need hex for rear shock adjusting.
and thats is.