Brake hose - Goodridge Vs. Hope
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The hoses come with fittings (goodridge). Hope you will need new compression fittings I woud guess at the very least?
The goodridge lines are absolutely fantastic on the brakes i have tried them on. I found them a bit much however on my shimanoes, they added power, but at the expense of feel and modulation.
The goodridge lines are absolutely fantastic on the brakes i have tried them on. I found them a bit much however on my shimanoes, they added power, but at the expense of feel and modulation.
I've seen the difference between the Hope and Goodridge, given a choice my money would go to Goodridge this time.
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Stock hose. I dunno- the stainless stuff just doesn't do it for me. I'm yet to kill a hose, and shimanos are nice and cheap if you do.
No they won't.
A couple glances at both hoses and fittings would have probably told you that.
The saint caliper fitting is crimped to the hose, and the lever fitting uses a compression olive around the hose. Evidently this olive won't seal with a stainless steel braided hose (and the goodridge's inner 'hose' will be too thin).
The goodridge fittings are the nicest part, stainless steel, cross drilled bolts, and all reuseable. Not much point splurging if you're not going to go all the way anyway.
I have used them in the past and can recommend them. Though I don't really see the need on shimano brakes either. They are slightly heavier than the stock hoses too, for those that care. I actually weighed them once but forgot to write it down
A couple glances at both hoses and fittings would have probably told you that.
The saint caliper fitting is crimped to the hose, and the lever fitting uses a compression olive around the hose. Evidently this olive won't seal with a stainless steel braided hose (and the goodridge's inner 'hose' will be too thin).
The goodridge fittings are the nicest part, stainless steel, cross drilled bolts, and all reuseable. Not much point splurging if you're not going to go all the way anyway.
I have used them in the past and can recommend them. Though I don't really see the need on shimano brakes either. They are slightly heavier than the stock hoses too, for those that care. I actually weighed them once but forgot to write it down
I need a new Hayes line. It rubbed and the outer black part was worn apart, showing the yellow part.
Are there some lines that won't wear out, that won't sacrifice modulation. I can't stand brakes that stop right away(my friend's juicy 7 carbons...). I like to be able to feather them a little. Partly for nose manuals
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Are there some lines that won't wear out, that won't sacrifice modulation. I can't stand brakes that stop right away(my friend's juicy 7 carbons...). I like to be able to feather them a little. Partly for nose manuals
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The feeling of air in the hose IS air in the hose. The kevlar hoses resist expansion fairly well.
It takes a while to bleed a saint right (the plus side is you'll probably never have to do it again) - but if you can't do it right with the stock hoses you probably won't manage with the goodridge's either.
Just my take on it. I have a pair of saints on my hardtail that are crazy solid feeling, and that was because I spent a few nights pumping the lever and tapping the whole system (hanging vert) while watching tv.
The GR hoses don't add any significant amount of weight BTW, so if you have the means go ahead and try them. But you'll have to trust me on the above!
It takes a while to bleed a saint right (the plus side is you'll probably never have to do it again) - but if you can't do it right with the stock hoses you probably won't manage with the goodridge's either.
Just my take on it. I have a pair of saints on my hardtail that are crazy solid feeling, and that was because I spent a few nights pumping the lever and tapping the whole system (hanging vert) while watching tv.
The GR hoses don't add any significant amount of weight BTW, so if you have the means go ahead and try them. But you'll have to trust me on the above!
If you're talking about Hope braided vs Goodridge braided, I've been told that the Hope lines are rebadged/repackaged Goodridge and therefore there isn't any difference.
Interesting. Anyone other opinions of Shimano/Goodridge combos? Maybe I'll save some money and stay with the stock lines.
toby
They are a huge upgrade on hayes. They literally made them feel like new brakes. Tons of power, good modulation, good feel etc. I would recommend anyone with hayes brakes get goodridge lines.
The new hopes, as mentioned, are shipping with rebadged goodridge lines. This is only the hopes that traditionally ship with braided line showever (I hear some do not?)
The older shimano lines (ugly romex looking stuff) sucked balls and goodridge is a huge step up. The newer plastic shimano lines seem to be just stiff enough to work well with their own system. They give great power, but great feel as well. Goodridge lines pushed the power up a few notches, but I lost the feel i loved in my Saints, so i went back to stock shimano lines.
you can cut them with a dremel or saw or pretty much whatever you have handy, just be careful to not make a mess of it, best would be to put a couple layers of duct tape or similar around the cut area prior tu cutting.
I just use plain old shimano housing cutters and clean up with an exactly. Worked just fine.
hmmm, unless they've changed since i got my Hope braided this early summer, as far as i can tell the Goodridge hose are quite thick to handle that screw-in type fittings while the Hope hose/fittings use an olive that requires u to cut/peel off a section of the plastic outer coating. However I too was told that the Hope hose are in fact Goodridge, they are not visually. Goodridge, thru email, told me they are not.
Interesting. Last I spoke with goodridge i was told they were not doing it at the time, but had in the past and owuld be again in the future. I wonder if that felt through. I have not seen hope hoses as of late, so I cannot tell you for sure. The goodridge lines are indeed quite beefy with a huge inner liner.
The inner liner is definetly huge. Here's a review I found.
http://www.nsmb.com/gear/goodridge_11_03.php
http://www.nsmb.com/gear/goodridge_11_03.php