[norbar]

Can anyone explain to me what does the Cane Creek Preloader do and what are the benefits?

Crank Preloader Ring (Preload Adjusters) | Cane Creek

The Cane Creek Crank Preloader is equipped with an aluminum preload ring, an aluminum inner thread ring, and a titanium 2.5mm hex fastening bolt. Buy now!

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[sethimus]

imho those are for those losers with cranksarms without pinch bolts?

 

[6thElement]

It's to replace the plastic preloader that some cranks come with e.g. SRAM DUB. Does the same as the doohicky on the outside of Shimano cranks, preload the bearing and then tighten the appropriate bolts to hold the crankarms in place.

 

[jonKranked]

yea, those are the crank spindle preloader for their eewings cranks. apparently also works on some other cranks w/ a 30mm spindle.

 

[6thElement]

It might have been @scrublover who posted a photo installing one during some recent updates?

 

[Andeh]

They are nice. I used to go through one of the shitty plastic ones that Race Face uses every few months, but the one that came on my eeWings is doing great after 2 years. I used to buy multiples of the RF ones at a time because I knew how easy the stupid things stripped out (not just the bolt, but he ring itself).

 

[4xBoy]

Also fits race face 30mm cranks.

 

[norbar]

So I didn't buy new bike for a few years and they managed to fuck up cranks so now you either constantly replace parts or you need fancy cc gear to fix it?

 

[Westy]

So I didn't buy new bike for a few years and they managed to fuck up cranks so now you either constantly replace parts or you need fancy cc gear to fix it?

Or just get XT cranks

 

[norbar]

Or just get XT cranks

With 2022 parts availability i got a complete bike. I was just curious what was that.

 

[ChrisRobin]

They do work well. I did notice the SixC cranks came with an aluminum ring, whereas the Next SL and maybe the Next R come with a plastic one.

 

[canadmos]

So I didn't buy new bike for a few years and they managed to fuck up cranks so now you either constantly replace parts or you need fancy cc gear to fix it?

Not really, I mean the industry was fucking stuff up from even back then.

This is just nice bling.

I can only speak for the RaceFace ring, which is plastic and has a tiny 2mm shitty steel bolt on it. I've always been worried about the plastic breaking or stripping that little screw, but its never actually happened. But the fear is real.

 

[StiHacka]

Aluminum anodized pre-load ring with a Ti oil slick bolt FTW.

 

[Jm_]

Or just use shimz

 

[norbar]

Not really, I mean the industry was fucking stuff up from even back then.

This is just nice bling.

I can only speak for the RaceFace ring, which is plastic and has a tiny 2mm shitty steel bolt on it. I've always been worried about the plastic breaking or stripping that little screw, but its never actually happened. But the fear is real.

It was but I remember the good old days where the number of standards was getting smaller. Good old days of every bike having same rear hub, bb, seatpost size with only 2 headset options. All was threaded. No internal cable bs.

 

[SkaredShtles]

It was but I remember the good old days where the number of standards was getting smaller. Good old days of every bike having same rear hub, bb, seatpost size with only 2 headset options. All was threaded. No internal cable bs.

Luddite.

Also - there's a thread for that.

 

[norbar]

Luddite.

Also - there's a thread for that.

Ah yeah the horrible days where I could take a bike for 3 weeks of bikepark bashing and worry about zero parts.

 

[mykel]

Aluminum anodized pre-load ring with a Ti oil slick bolt FTW.

 

[SkaredShtles]

Ah yeah the horrible days where I could take a bike for 3 weeks of bikepark bashing and worry about zero parts.

Those days are never comin' back... as good as they were.

 

[StiHacka]

They exist.

 

[scrublover]

It might have been @scrublover who posted a photo installing one during some recent updates?

Yep.
Too many ugga duggas and I stripped out a plastic one one a DUB crank.

New one works just fine, no issues in a few rides so far.

 

[englertracing]

QUOTE="Jm_, post: 4632913, member: 1359"]
Or just use shimz
[/QUOTE] I usually lathe some. Barstock and leave an 0.020" gap, and use the good ol wheels mfg wave washer that's about 0.018" to do my preloading

 

[Westy]

QUOTE="Jm_, post: 4632913, member: 1359"]
Or just use shimz

I usually lathe some. Barstock and leave an 0.020" gap, and use the good ol wheels mfg wave washer that's about 0.018" to do my preloading
[/QUOTE]

Anyone who uses lathe as a verb needs to have their machines confiscated and sent to a proper home.

 

[Sandwich]

While I am a confirmed hater of the cinch interface, I'm still on the fence with the actual assembly of RF 30mm cranks. I use shims to space my driveside crankarm and get enough tension on the NDS, but I haven't had a problem with the plastic retainer. It needs a gentle touch, and I understand why this part exists, but I haven't had to buy one yet.

MTB has SLX cranks so I'll never have to worry

 

[englertracing]

I usually lathe some. Barstock and leave an 0.020" gap, and use the good ol wheels mfg wave washer that's about 0.018" to do my preloading

Anyone who uses lathe as a verb needs to have their machines confiscated and sent to a proper home.
[/QUOTE]
Lol.
I only use that terminology here on the Interwebz go along with catch phrases like moar shimz.

My brother and I make fun of the phrase "just bore it out bro" it's idiot for "perform various machine operation"

 

[norbar]

Those days are never comin' back... as good as they were.

Naah it's still kinda doable to build a bike like this it's just stupid expensive now. Some Avy and Vorsprung Susp. Buy some old brakes when they used to be reliable (or splash on trickstuff since I hear they work good). Save weight only on parts that usually don't collapse and it should be good. If I could build a reliable 16.5kg DH bike in 2010 no reason this should not be possible with an enduro bike in 2022

 

[Andeh]

Bikes 10 years ago were lighter because the frames were smaller & weaker, the wheels / tires were smaller, the tires weren't as burly, and the suspension wasn't as stout / durable.

I had a 2013 Nomad setup with a DHX2, 36, and flat pedals that weighed right at 30 lbs. Of course that was with wimpy EXO tires. I don't even know what my current setup weighs but it's got to be something like 35 lbs (not even with inserts). The current bike is durable as fuck though.

 

[Pneuma]

^ New uphillable bikes are also stiff as fuck. My Megatrail feels like a DH bike in this regard. The enduro it replaced was a noodle and that was final straw to replace that dumb thing.

 

[slimshady]

It was but I remember the good old days where the number of standards was getting smaller. Good old days of every bike having same rear hub, bb, seatpost size with only 2 headset options. All was threaded. No internal cable bs.

 

[norbar]

Bikes 10 years ago were lighter because the frames were smaller & weaker, the wheels / tires were smaller, the tires weren't as burly, and the suspension wasn't as stout / durable.

I had a 2013 Nomad setup with a DHX2, 36, and flat pedals that weighed right at 30 lbs. Of course that was with wimpy EXO tires. I don't even know what my current setup weighs but it's got to be something like 35 lbs (not even with inserts). The current bike is durable as fuck though.

While I agree on frames and wheels being smaller the claim the suspension wasn't as stout was BS. Especially that I was talking DH bikes. Not my fault you have built your bike on weak components. It's your choice not a change in trends.

 

[norbar]

XKCD FTW every day.

Still The mistake is thining a standard to be universal needs to be developed from scratch. Somehow we never had this issue with cassetes and discs. One always won. No one tried to make a universal casette that's not vhs or beta.

 

[Gary]

the tires weren't as burly

Eh? where do you get that idea?
26" DH tyres from maxxis are more burly than their wobble prone 29" versions.
and BITD a few other manufacturers made super heavy 26" 4 ply DH tyres. If that sort of casing were a thing now you'd have 1600g+ 29x2.5" tyres

Personally I still like lighter bikes (around 30lb ish) and still think DH casings, low pressures and soft compounds ride horribly uphill or anywhere flatter that requires pedaling or accelerations. i realise mountainbiking has changed and puts me firmly in the minority surrounded by endurbros on 36lb trail bikes but with less than 10% of most days trail riding actually spent riding downhill a heavy bike and heavy draggy tyres just makes the other 90% of ride less enjoyable.
Obviously this will differ dependant on your local trails.

Anodised Alu BB30 pre-load collars have been available on ebay/Aliexpress for a while. About a tenner shipped

 

[toodles]

Anyone who uses lathe as a verb needs to have their machines confiscated and sent to a proper home.

I personally hate people who use "drill" or "hammer" as verbs instead of "rotary method hole production technique" and "percussion tune"

 

[Westy]

I personally hate people who use "drill" or "hammer" as verbs instead of "rotary method hole production technique" and "percussion tune"

But drill and hammer are verbs, the proper nouns for the tools are drill motor/spindle and adjustable wrench.

 

[Sandwich]

Eh? where do you get that idea?
26" DH tyres from maxxis are more burly than their wobble prone 29" versions.
and BITD a few other manufacturers made super heavy 26" 4 ply DH tyres. If that sort of casing were a thing now you'd have 1600g+ 29x2.5" tyres

Personally I still like lighter bikes (around 30lb ish) and still think DH casings, low pressures and soft compounds ride horribly uphill or anywhere flatter that requires pedaling or accelerations. i realise mountainbiking has changed and puts me firmly in the minority surrounded by endurbros on 36lb trail bikes but with less than 10% of most days trail riding actually spent riding downhill a heavy bike and heavy draggy tyres just makes the other 90% of ride less enjoyable.
Obviously this will differ dependant on your local trails.

Anodised Alu BB30 pre-load collars have been available on ebay/Aliexpress for a while. About a tenner shipped

ahhh wahh my bike is heavier....yeah but your bike can now downhill as well as downhill bikes from that time period and climb as well as bikes from that period.

I'm over here with a bike I haven't upgraded in a couple of years that weighs under 30 and climbs better than anything else I've owned. Super capable bikes out there, you just need to build the right one. Sacrifice a little DH ability for some climbing and I bet you can still get a 24lb bike that would have set records back in the day.

 

[norbar]

I personally hate people who use "drill" or "hammer" as verbs instead of "rotary method hole production technique" and "percussion tune"

Isn't this the "you can't call vegan milk milk" argument?

 

[norbar]

ahhh wahh my bike is heavier....yeah but your bike can now downhill as well as downhill bikes from that time period and climb as well as bikes from that period.

I'm over here with a bike I haven't upgraded in a couple of years that weighs under 30 and climbs better than anything else I've owned. Super capable bikes out there, you just need to build the right one. Sacrifice a little DH ability for some climbing and I bet you can still get a 24lb bike that would have set records back in the day.

24lb? My cat with a sock on his head weighs that. I get 14-15kg but sub 11?

 

[norbar]

Eh? where do you get that idea?
26" DH tyres from maxxis are more burly than their wobble prone 29" versions.
and BITD a few other manufacturers made super heavy 26" 4 ply DH tyres. If that sort of casing were a thing now you'd have 1600g+ 29x2.5" tyres

Personally I still like lighter bikes (around 30lb ish) and still think DH casings, low pressures and soft compounds ride horribly uphill or anywhere flatter that requires pedaling or accelerations. i realise mountainbiking has changed and puts me firmly in the minority surrounded by endurbros on 36lb trail bikes but with less than 10% of most days trail riding actually spent riding downhill a heavy bike and heavy draggy tyres just makes the other 90% of ride less enjoyable.
Obviously this will differ dependant on your local trails.

Anodised Alu BB30 pre-load collars have been available on ebay/Aliexpress for a while. About a tenner shipped

This. Generally I would still use soft tires for uplift days but yeah In the good old days 99% of the people you met used proper burly sidewall tires. Hell if someone used anything different he got pineapple on pizza looks.

 

[Sandwich]

I get 14-15kg but sub 11?

yo speak american

 

[norbar]

yo speak american

Nasa is american and they use proper units instead of pretending they are a medieval merchant.