[Dirt rider]

with 2005 models on the websites and showing up in shops I may have found my next bike the Giant NRS composite-2.

but Ive been hearing from mostly DH and trials riding friends (who freak out at the thought of anything carbon on a bike) that one scratch will doom the frame to cracking

im not so worried that its a dual suspention as carbon has a longer fatiuge life than aluminum.


Im not at all mean to my bikes, but i just dont one crash or some one handling it rough to write off such an expencive frame

 

[me89]

carbon fiber componets =okay

carbon fiber frame=

stick to alluminum you might not be hard on bikes but the trails are. theres a reason dh bikes weigh what they do. i know xc riders are all about the sub 20 lb bikes but i would rather lug a 25-30 lb bike up a hill that i knew was gonna last than a 10lb carbon fiber bike that will brake after a few hard crashes. just my opinion

 

[Wumpus]

These seem to hold up:

 

[Wumpus]

Remember that the NRS is a XC bike -- comes specced with an 80mm fork.

 

[Skookum]

Carbon can take a beating. DH'ers dont like it because when it breaks it's breaks immediately and thoroughly, like titanium. Whereas aluminum will stress/crack/bend/break usually in a slower process. i've owned a few carbon bikes(GT sts's) and i did break one frame, but the second one was pretty bombproof.
Giant is good with warranties, if you use it for XC you should be fine. The feel of carbon is pretty unique.

 

[Carbon Fetish]

I've been riding this bike since 2001.

 

[blue]

These seem to hold up:

What is that, a Straight Six that got attacked by a carbon rapist?

 

[The Kadvang]

What is that, a Straight Six that got attacked by a carbon rapist?

BCD, foo. It don't even look like no Straight Six, do you see a pull shock, XC boi? I don't either. To me it looks like a pimp ass Carbon DH frame for one fast gangsta. G-unit out.

 

[seismic]

I think carbon is very strong and will survive most normal crashes where it is not clammed against something like a tree or a rock......if it is it might not hold up ! If you worry get something else, - if you just love carbon then do not think so much about it and get one. Everything can break anyway!

 

[lanman]

BCD, foo. It don't even look like no Straight Six, do you see a pull shock, XC boi? I don't either. To me it looks like a pimp ass Carbon DH frame for one fast gangsta. G-unit out.

A Straight six has a standard shock driven by a modified 4 bar...the "seatstay" of the swingarm is made of carbon fiber and has a very similar position and angle, but besides that they are comepletely different

 

[binary visions]

A Straight six has a standard shock driven by a modified 4 bar...the "seatstay" of the swingarm is made of carbon fiber and has a very similar position and angle, but besides that they are comepletely different

They made Straight Sixes with a pull shock, too, so you're both right.

There are lots of carbon fiber frames that hold up fine. The material itself is great, very strong. Don't believe the paranoia.

 

[Funky Monk]

If you're mostly nice to your frames, I'm sure a CF frame will hold up just fine.

(mostly nice = xc, light trail riding)

no carbon for them dh frames, except of course the pimpy BCD. I've yet to decide whether I love or hate the looks of that frame...

 

[SkaredShtles]

<snip>There are lots of carbon fiber frames that hold up fine. The material itself is great, very strong. Don't believe the paranoia.

I rode a CF frame for 7 years. Scratched the hell out of it. Crashed a few times on rock. Didn't break catastrophically until I drove it into the garage on my bike rack.

I'd still be riding that ol' P.O.S. if I hadn't whacked it.

-S.S.-

 

[Dirt rider]

Im not planing to DH or freeride this thing at all, period. I have a kona Stuff for that.

due to a shop "sponcership" type deal im lookin at either a Gaint, Kona or Santacruz

I paln to go about $3000 Cnd (2500 U.S).


Giant NRS carbon-2 Carbon front triangle & links, fox FRL 80mm fork, float R shock, LX shifters,derailers, RF ride XC cranks, hayes Sole hydros, easton E-50 bar stem and post. mavic 317 rims-- the Giants geomitry fits me well
$2999

Kona King Kikapu, Scandium front triangle, Fox FRL 100mm fork, fox RP3 shock w/ lockout, XT shifters,derailers, LX chain and casette Hayes HFX-9 XC carbon, RF evolve X-Type cranks, sun DS1- XC rims
$3399

Santa cruz Blur a full XT groupo (drive train and disc brakes) fox FRL-100 fox float R and XT/mavic 317 wheels easton bar stem post, worked out to $3600

Santa cruz superlight same parts about $300 less

there are kits that cost less from santa cruz but Im not 100% on the pricing

 

[Dirt rider]

Carbon Fetish..

Nice. that bike is deadly I read that giant has the largest compoistes facility in Tiawan-- thats Not own by the military

 

[HippieKai]

carbon makes me shiver with fear.
i just don't trust it for mountain biking. XC maybe but dh/freeride/street...no way!

 

[SkaredShtles]

carbon makes me shiver with fear.
i just don't trust it for mountain biking. XC maybe but dh/freeride/street...no way!

He didn't ask about DH/FR or street, numbnuts.

-S.S.-

 

[-BB-]

The one thing you really have to worry about with a CF bike is when you are shuttling it and it is rubbing against your buddy's pedals for a while.
I know someone who did this and it wore right through the frame.

 

[HippieKai]

He didn't ask about DH/FR or street, numbnuts.

-S.S.-

i was just giving my opinion on carbon asshat.

 

[SkaredShtles]

i was just giving my opinion on carbon asshat.

But you said "XC maybe" - and that's what he was asking about.

And that's Mr. Asshat to you. :eviltongu

-S.S.-

 

[HippieKai]

But you said "XC maybe" - and that's what he was asking about.

And that's Mr. Asshat to you. :eviltongu

-S.S.-

well maybe means maybe Mr. asshat
and maybe i'll go buy some carbon and shove it up your! :nuts:



please read my sig if you start getting mad!

 

[SkaredShtles]

well maybe means maybe Mr. asshat

No, no, no. Mr. Asshat.

and maybe i'll go buy some carbon and shove it up your! :nuts:

Why?

-S.S.-

 

[HippieKai]

Why?

-S.S.-

thats all it's good for!

 

[Skookum]

who's that in your avy? is that Voltron?

 

[HippieKai]

who's that in your avy? is that Voltron?

the one and only!

 

[HippieKai]

by the way....who gets credit for basterdizing this thread?

 

[JRB]

I'll take credit, but you and SS definitely pissed all over it much better than a true bastardizing would have.

 

[Dirt rider]

The one thing you really have to worry about with a CF bike is when you are shuttling it and it is rubbing against your buddy's pedals for a while.
I know someone who did this and it wore right through the frame.

good to know. because the bike will be transported alot to the races.

 

[HippieKai]

good to know. because the bike will be transported alot to the races.

see
cabon bad, metal good.

 

[HippieKai]

I'll take credit, but you and SS definitely pissed all over it much better than a true bastardizing would have.

thanks for taking the heat man.

this one time though...well ok a bunch of times...i pissed on this kids door handle to his truck because he was a jerk to me. Then i found out like three other guys that this kid had pissed off (no pun intended) were pissing on his car too. so everyday after school at least one kid had pissed on this true asshats truck.
good stuff.
kai-

 

[JRB]

good to know. because the bike will be transported alot to the races.

It's never good to transport a bike rubbing though. Carbon or not.

 

[SkaredShtles]

thats all it's good for!

By all means! Buy some CF and send it to me. I'll shove it myself.

Woohoo! Free CF!

I'm not afraid...............

-S.S.-

 

[SkaredShtles]

It's never good to transport a bike rubbing though. Carbon or not.

I have a co-worker who has a hole rubbed through his *aluminum* framed HT.......

I keep telling him he really needs to get a new frame.

-S.S.-

 

[HippieKai]

By all means! Buy some CF and send it to me. I'll shove it myself.

Woohoo! Free CF!

I'm not afraid...............

-S.S.-

have you ever received a carbon sliver?
they hurt intense like because they have barbs like a fish hook.
not fun at all.
so if you want those up your rear by all means shove away!

 

[SkaredShtles]

have you ever received a carbon sliver?
they hurt intense like because they have barbs like a fish hook.
not fun at all.
so if you want those up your rear by all means shove away!

Send 'em. Like I told you, I'm not afraid............

All my previous carbon experience has been painted, though....

-S.S.-

 

[HippieKai]

raw and splintered babby. thats the only way your getting it.
a little s&m ridemonkey style.

 

[SkaredShtles]

raw and splintered babby. thats the only way your getting it.

You can buy it that way?

-S.S.-

 

[SkaredShtles]

Dirtrider - get the carbon NRS. If you don't get it for yourself, get it for me and I'll trade you my *aluminum* NRS for it..........

-S.S.-

 

[HippieKai]

buy i could get it free from the black box (trek rear end) the postal frame, or one of the 6 or 7 bars i have seen busted.

 

[Skookum]

i'm afraid to ask what ScaredShtls avatar is all about.