That's why you use the black/steel lower pulley bolt that the e13s come with if you ride in a rocky region. The Gold one is all 1999 breakaway aluminum derailleur bolt stylee.I smash my chainduide lower pulley all the time so i end up breaking off the lower pulley wheel in a couple ride so i stopped with e13. the straitline is the best guides i have used except when i do hit the lower slider i have to adjust the chain guide back plate so the lower slider doesn't contact the chain stay
all of your problems sound more than "normal" use if youre breaking the G2 so much. hell my Revolt broke before my G2 Mini did. the G2 and G2Mini are also identical besides for chainring capacity btw.
and over torquing something is not the mfg's fault, its your fault.
if you could design something in a day, we'd all love to see it
This, plus the fact they make a 32t specific guide makes the Straitline the guide I'm going with for the trail bike...silent guide is also 100% silent,no drag either
seems to me he doesn't know how to ajust it,I even raise my lower guide even more for rock clearence.I spoke to two guys running Straitlines recently (curiosity mostly) and one was hating on his pretty hard. Riding a 2011 Norco Team DH, couldn't get a balance between the lower guide high enough to add tension and the upper guide back enough at the same time...
I do like the simple adjust-ability of the E13s, just wish they weighed 50 grams more and were tougher as a result.
i love how mechanical engineers always try to one up each other. is that your great re-design? $.10 more of plastic? has MRP contacted you yet for a job?
im sorry i forgot i called you a hack another time and that you get butt-hurt easily.
i love how mechanical engineers always try to one up each other. is that your great re-design? $.10 more of plastic? has MRP contacted you yet for a job?
im sorry i forgot i called you a hack another time and that you get butt-hurt easily.
you must be new here.You're acting like a d-bag for no reason.
Just as long as it's a Straitline.this thread is why forums suck. it's a chainguide put it on and ride it...they are all pretty much the same design
yeah it's not like your chainguide is going to melt off your bike if you use triflow by accident.
i have been running e.13 for about 8 years or something and never once thought about lubricant and mine doesnt look like a pile of molten wax.
Yes really. You can honestly tell me that derailleur manufacturers have some super secret plastic that chain guide companies don't have? For the last 50 plus years? How come shimano can make a derailleur jockey wheel in plastic and have it last forever, but neither e13 nor mrp can build their stuff out of the same thing, or at least warranty it should something happen? I won't argue with you, buy the disposable ****, love it, whatever, but it's not for me.really?
Dave Ive had similar issues as you, not so many but the origonal G2 36t-40t I replaced the bolts you over torqued, I didn't break anything but I did think quality of the bolts especialy the heads were crap and cheap for the price you pay for the guide which Im not moaning about, I just expect the price to relfect the quality, cost me a couple of bucks at a home depo, Ive had no issues since.Originally Posted by davec113
I can.
The design of the G2 backplate is ****. G2mini is a little better, but with the G2 there is too much material removed between the points where the taco bolts to the backplate, which is why mine bent with only normal use. They could also use 7075 aluminum, like straitline, which is 2x as strong.
The lower guide plates are too exposed and I've broke mine 2x.
The lower guide plate is held on by a bolt that can be too easily overtorqued. This design is complete crap. I'm a ME, and I could design a better... and maybe slightly more expensive... lower guide in a day.
The lower guide plate of my g2 mini is also held on by a small machine screw from the backside... well, the screw's head is too small to catch the channel in the backplate and hence doesn't offer the structural support needed. I broke them...
The lower roller's bearing was completely clogged with mud at one point. Not sealed well enough.
Sorry, but IMO, the MRP G2's design needs some further refinement.
How come e13 and mrp can make a taco or bash ring that I can hit on rocks yet when I go to hit my derailleur on a rock everything goes to hell?Yes really. You can honestly tell me that derailleur manufacturers have some super secret plastic that chain guide companies don't have? For the last 50 plus years? How come shimano can make a derailleur jockey wheel in plastic and have it last forever, but neither e13 nor mrp can build their stuff out of the same thing, or at least warranty it should something happen? I won't argue with you, buy the disposable ****, love it, whatever, but it's not for me.
useful information on ridemonkey!? thanks for the info I will look in to getting one of these.That's why you use the black/steel lower pulley bolt that the e13s come with if you ride in a rocky region. The Gold one is all 1999 breakaway aluminum derailleur bolt stylee.
Because it's not designed to bounce off rocks, whereas a bash guard is? But the pulley wheels in both items ARE designed to do the same thing, but are not both compatible with all chain lubes.How come e13 and mrp can make a taco or bash ring that I can hit on rocks yet when I go to hit my derailleur on a rock everything goes to hell?
The LG1+ was designed to do exactly that actually. Compress and crush, but not explode. You can both finish a race run that way, as well as not tear your leg apart on sharp plastic pieces.Just to add to the fun, here's how you kill a LG1+:
Yep. I just retightened the mounting bolts after it slipped, and it got me through the rest of the day. (Two of the ISCG bolts were bent!)The LG1+ was designed to do exactly that actually. Compress and crush, but not explode. You can both finish a race run that way, as well as not tear your leg apart on sharp plastic pieces.
On another note, I put an XO guide on recently (an MRP g2 I think?) and it's been pretty flawless.
I think that's what they are if you get them from Sram? 2012 MRP dealer cat. doesn't have any Sram branding in it. (yet)G2 SL is what has been rebranded the XO guide.
I've had my chain slip off the front ring to the outside a couple times. I can't move either upper or lower guides in all the way to the correct position or they hit on the mounting tabs of my Shimino SLX crankset, so there is just enough room for the chain to bounce off.G2 SL is what has been rebranded the XO guide. Seems pretty solid. Did have the chain slip at one point and get loose on the chainring, but still tight in the idler pulley. That was weird.