Anyone updated an older Pike from the SoloAir to the Debonair air spring?
Thoughts?
For $33 I'm very tempted.
Thoughts?
For $33 I'm very tempted.
DebonAir Upgrade Kit for 2015 Pike?
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I’ve posted a few times, but debonair to debonair2 upgrade on my Lyrik was easy and recommended.
Also, the mid stroke support on these new RS is night and day better compared to the old ones. Not sure when that change happened.
Also, the mid stroke support on these new RS is night and day better compared to the old ones. Not sure when that change happened.
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I did mine. I felt that it reduced diving for an equal pressure.
Yes. Do it.
Thanks, one for me, one for wife.
It's better than the original but not as good as a Luftkappe. The Debonair bearing assy has much lower friction which is nice tho
Guide seems to suggest zero tokens for a 150mm, I think previously it recommended one (I think that's what I have).
https://www.sram.com/sites/default/files/techdocs/gen.0000000005699_2019_bottomless_tokens_rev_a.pdf
Did those of you who made the change also alter your token count?
https://www.sram.com/sites/default/files/techdocs/gen.0000000005699_2019_bottomless_tokens_rev_a.pdf
Did those of you who made the change also alter your token count?
A larger negative spring should require slightly higher pressure and since the volume of the positive chamber is unchanged in the Debonair set up, higher pressure should yield more ramp up which can require less tokens.
Now, it's up to you to find if theory and practice concur!
Now, it's up to you to find if theory and practice concur!
Is it possible to do both? (Luftkappe + debonair bearing assy)
All true. I went about 20 psi higher and pulled all 3 tokens going to the new DB spring on Lyrik. Can run a lot of pressure without being too bad on small bump with the huge neg spring.
Rides higher and bottom force is about the same.
I'm wondering if this works actually. The negative air spacer has moved from the bearing to the piston, and the luftkappe doesn't have anything to compensate for it. I presume Steve is working on something though.
Since Steve recommends to remove the top out bumper, I don't think the spacer has a relevance anymore once you've installed the Luftkappe.I'm wondering if this works actually. The negative air spacer has moved from the bearing to the piston, and the luftkappe doesn't have anything to compensate for it. I presume Steve is working on something though.
I have seen somebody removing the piston on a Debonair air shaft and then threading the shaft in order to be able to install a Luftkappe. Doing this you further increase the volume of the negative chamber.
Too much of a good thing can be a bad thing tho, the larger the negative chamber, the more pressure you need for a given sag which also yields more ramp up so that it might get difficult to use full travel if you're not a super fit and aggressive rider.
Yeah I'm just not 100% sure is all. If anything, I wonder if you could leave the bumper in to compensate for the lack of the spacer.
Steve is probably making a Luftkappe specifically for the Debonair shafts I imagine.