With the recent death on my rear EX 823 I am now faced with the decision of rebuilding the wheel with straight guage spokes or try again with the double butted. I've usally use Wheelsmith 14g on ALL my DH wheels, but recently switched to DT Comp 14/15/14g spokes. It seems like most 823's are failing with the DB spokes, has anyone used a straight 14g spoke with a 823/3.1 and had it last?