[w00dy]

.....I don't get it.....

Are you trolling?
These bikes are for jumping, not XC. You don't need gears on a slopestyle course or dirt jumps. My ride is posted above, which i use for dh. I never miss having gears. Totally unnecessary on a gravity bike.

...the killswitch looks so much more beef than the Pink.

Steel tubes don't need to be as large as aluminum ones, steel is a denser, stronger material. It also has a superior fatigue life. It will bend in some situations where aluminum will crack. This is an important feature in a bike intended for abuse.

you guys are forgetting what i think is the first? concentric bb bike: cove g spot

Good call, I did forget that one, but I think this was earlier.

 

[ServeEm]

for some reason i was thinking it was steel. explains it now

 

[Pete..]

Am I the only one that remembers that WhoRyder had a Le Pink?
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=221778
And then he said:
"Okay, i confess, i'm the New PRO Rider for Do*Ber*Mann, they were so stoked on how much i SUCKED at riding that they gave me a sponsorship... fox shox is soon to follow......

Yeah.... "

What I never got was that if he was a "PRO rider" for Dobermann, why got all those other hardtails....


Whatever though. Continue on continuing on there WhoRyder.

 

[joelalamo45]

Am I the only one that remembers that WhoRyder had a Le Pink?
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=221778
And then he said:
"Okay, i confess, i'm the New PRO Rider for Do*Ber*Mann, they were so stoked on how much i SUCKED at riding that they gave me a sponsorship... fox shox is soon to follow......

Yeah.... "

What I never got was that if he was a "PRO rider" for Dobermann, why got all those other hardtails....


Whatever though. Continue on continuing on there WhoRyder.

Dude he's a photographer... the PRO rider comment was tongue in cheek, I believe. Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Randomshot]

ha ya i think it was in response to quickneonrt saying he stalks alain something fierce...

 

[NSBikesRider]

just trying to say i think its a bit of a waste, why pay for a bike thats more money, that has full suspension, and sure these bikes look nice, but half of them are set up for street, and i think that a street 24" bike, eg NS majesty, Holy or anything else, is just simpler, and i think the suspension takes half the edge out of the pedalling, and plus i think the shock of landing on a ridgid bike is soo much nicer.

 

[NSBikesRider]

but hey thats my opinion, im just saying how i feel, and the first one, the silver and purple one, is pretty sweet

 

[Randomshot]

im sure they've done a lot to limit all the bounce when you're pedaling, and these are gravity bikes how much are you really pedaling at your trails? for street it does seem kinda weird having a fully but im sure its plenty fun

 

[Sandwich]

so...has anybody spent any time on the dartmoor or kona cowan/bass? I'm thinking about picking something like this up as a cheapo kickaround bike for funs and low funds.

 

[demo 9]

Kona bass/cowan is ****, had 1, hated it.

 

[Sandwich]

did you like your killswitch? how did you like one and not the other?

 

[demo 9]

did you like your killswitch? how did you like one and not the other?

The Bass is a mess, its either the tinyest top tube with mediocre standover or a normal top tube with huge standover, the rear shock is basically useless, just bottoms out, bad geo, kinda long stays (or at least felt it)

I hated it, and i owned it for a while.

The killswitch was a double edge sword, it was everything good about a DJ bike, but the fitments off. a 23" killswitch is enormous, 2 inches bigger than a 22.5 MOB. The killswitch has to be bought small, i didnt mind mine, and i liked it a good amount except the sizing, the reason i ended up getting a SX over it on round 2, was because it has a real bad "bucking" problem, because of it being concentric with their hammer link, it pitches you forward very aggressively on dirt jumps, especially if you bronco. I grew into it, but it always seemed to bite me every once and a while. I still recommend it, but you have to be very careful with it.Its a finicky design.When i called black market i got an answer like that basically said this is how we do it get used to it. Not very helpful-nor the first time i got bad CS from them.

I am nearly 6 feet, and its still super long

 

[sittingduck]

Stout Fully!

http://www.pinkbike.com/video/212754/

 

[slimshady]

I rode a KillSwitch a couple of times. A friend has one, but the guy is like 6'10, so he's riding the 23" size, and he threw a 60mm stem in to make it worse. I'm 6 ft. and couldn't get the bike to maneuver in the air at all, although the rear suspension felt really good. It doesn't suck your impulse when bunnyhopping, and it really makes the landing softer. I could almost say I felt the bike rode like a rigid, with the rear sus just kicking in when you needed it.

On the other hand, I rode the Dartmoor this past weekend. It certainly felt WAY lighter (especially when compared to my gigantic friend's KS), but it didn't really pedal well, and the suspension made the bike felt sort of like an accordion. I think Pablo Tafoya got it right when he designed the Hammer Link for the Killswitch.

If you ask me, I'd totally go for the KillSwitch...

 

[-BB-]

Arrow Racing has been making the DSS-3 for a few years at least. It's a sweet frame for sure!

LOL... a Few years now for sure. I had one back in 2000 or 2001 and it wasn't a new bike then either.

So what would be the dif between a SS and a DS bike?

 

[demo 9]

^ just about nothing, technically the DS bike are lower and slacker, but its pretty marginal, the SX for example is what spesh uses for both.

 

[WestCoastHucker]

for the purpose of the this thread, SS is not Slope Style, it is Single Speed...

 

[addomg]

so...has anybody spent any time on the dartmoor or kona cowan/bass?

I have been riding the cowan below for about three and a half years. It was a bling build all around play bike. I have loved it. I wouldn't say it kicks ass at any one thing, but does alot of stuff good enough to have a ton of fun. I am old so wanted some forgiving squish instead of a hard tail. I use it mostly for dj and freeride with some random xc, urban, pump tracks, beer runs, and dh thrown in. It rails turns and is very stable/ predictable in the air and provides a little cushion when i go long or come up short. The only issue i have had is finally blew out the cartridge in the marz 4x and now have a dj1 on it. Threw in some of my favorite action shots on her, lotsa a good times!

 

[jonKranked]

Stout Fully!

http://www.pinkbike.com/video/212754/

a urt? really?