dvd ripping - is it legal in this case?
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I'm not sure if its completely legal to rip dvds but I only use it for my own dvds.
I'm not sure if its completely legal to rip dvds but I only use it for my own dvds.
Your door will be kicked down soon.
No, it's not legal.
some norweigan (finnish? somewhere from up there) kid took on the movie industry by creating a DVD ripper. not sure how it played out, and i'm sure it varies from country to country.
I doubt that it's legal, but lots of people do it every day.
but ripping cds isn't illegal....so what's the basis for the difference?
My question exactly...I think if it's a DVD he bought it would be ok, but since he's renting it, maybe not?
I think, at least in this case, it has to do with ripping an owned CD vs a rented movie. If you didn't own the CD would it then be illegal?
DVD ripping isn't legal because in order to do so, you have to bypass the encryption on the disc which is there as a copyright protection mechanism. That's a violation of the DMCA which prohibits bypassing copyright protection mechanisms.
I believe it has been decided that ripping CDs for personal use is legal because there is no copyright protection on the CD (it's just raw music data, no encoding), so you are not actually bypassing anything.
So, no, it's not within the letter of the law.
I'm hard pressed to suggest that it's not well within the spirit that these laws were created in, though.
I believe it has been decided that ripping CDs for personal use is legal because there is no copyright protection on the CD (it's just raw music data, no encoding), so you are not actually bypassing anything.
So, no, it's not within the letter of the law.
I'm hard pressed to suggest that it's not well within the spirit that these laws were created in, though.
"Space shifting" your media has been upheld in several court cases if I remember correctly, and is essentially based on remaining within the terms of agreement that you obtained the media under. I'm sure the terms of agreement for renting a movie state that it is not to be copied under any circumstances.
I kinda wonder what the courts would say if you remained true to the spirit of the agreement, though, and there was no copyright protection to bypass. That is, if you rented a music CD, copied it and listened to it, then deleted it.
I kinda wonder what the courts would say if you remained true to the spirit of the agreement, though, and there was no copyright protection to bypass. That is, if you rented a music CD, copied it and listened to it, then deleted it.
irate2:
the encryption Sony tried w/ cds was a resounding success.
Who cares? I bet y'all speed.
Bummer. Thanks!
The only illegal part is the decss decrytion used in the cracking process of the encryption on the CD.
Yes, but I don't try to bypass cops.
don't you have a radar detector?
Well, I think BV brought up a good point (if I understood his post correctly)... by the letter of the law, no it's not legal (falls under the unauthorized reproduction crap). However, if you ripped it to your ipod, watched it on the plane, then deleted it, you'd be acting within the "spirit of the law" and the reason why people rent movies, so arguably not doing anything wrong.
No, it's not black and white, but...
For whatever that's worth.
i'm a law breaker!
magicdvdcopy or magicdvdripper. the ripper will encode it in the ipod format.
magicdvdcopy or magicdvdripper. the ripper will encode it in the ipod format.
Yeah, those rootkits rocked the fsck