legal crap i think. It gives you more options anyways.
e 13 zero stack 1.5 reducing cups
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another option would be to use the high crowns...got the same issue when installing my 888 on my L v10 and had to order a high upper crown and issue solved.
That Syncros headset is nifty but is heavy as all get out. I had one around for a while and no one was willing to try it out b/c of the weight.
Patents & licensing.
I'd be curious as to where you've gleamed your info to base your allegations on. I have been to the FSA factory. I've met the owner on several occasions. If you don't like a company or a company's product that's one thing but to claim a company is using child labor with ZERO proof is flat out wrong!
btw...what companies product are you now using; lots of other companies actually source their headset and BB's thru FSA/TH.
-ska todd
coolio.
is that the e 13 cups and the orbit for 1.125?
this uk shop has info that says 110 grams http://www.windwave.co.uk/windwave/100-1312.html that may exclude the starnut, topcap and bolt.
no, thats just the fsa orbit-z 1.5R weight you asked for. Newer version maybe?
http://www.sicklines.com/weights/headsets
http://www.sicklines.com/weights/headsets
I will second Ska Todds comments. Those sorts of statements should be qualified with "I had bad personal experiences" but they certainly shouldn't go on to make wildly inaccurate claims.
Anyway... Dave's point is great, but I'll stick wtih my same original claim that the Orbit Z1.5R accomplishes the same thing - extremely low stack height on 1.5 frames with 1.125" steerers. I make no claims of it being nicer than the E13 option. Only that it is CHEAPER than E13 plus headset.
Discuss amongst yourselves....
Anyway... Dave's point is great, but I'll stick wtih my same original claim that the Orbit Z1.5R accomplishes the same thing - extremely low stack height on 1.5 frames with 1.125" steerers. I make no claims of it being nicer than the E13 option. Only that it is CHEAPER than E13 plus headset.
Discuss amongst yourselves....
Yup, approached Cane Creek about it in 2002, e.thirteen was growing, and was denied, but I still hold out hope for the future.
I couldn't agree more FSA makes some of the nicest stuff in the world. I run their headsets/ bearings on almost every one of my bikes. Absolute top quality.
That is where I looked.. the drawings just look crown-raceless...
BTW thanks for the info.
davep, where doyou get the alloy one? i have always wondered where you can buy races without buying a headset. are the alloy ones stonger, lighter, both, neither?
I've also recently been running more and more FSA components, including headsets/bearings and couldn't be happier. 
FSA sells most replacement parts on their web store, it is linked right off of the front page (black button up top). They have many crown races... split, non split, steel, stainless, and aluminum.
In general, aluminum is not as 'strong' as steel, but it is lighter. I would expect a aluminum crown race to start to wear at the bearing contact surfaces just like the king headets do after a while..but they are only $10 to replace..the cheepo steel races will be plated (chrome or nickle) and over time, the plating can wear of flake, leading to rust....for me, I think stainless is the way to go..cant be more than about 5 grams difference...
cool. i found the parts sale page. however, where can you buy the z1.5r retail? i can find it as standard equipment on devinci and transition bikes, and available from uk stores. anyplace here in the usa sell these online or do i need to special order at the LBS?
But how do you strip a headset?
What issues in particular did you find with the orbit zero stack headset? (besides small asian child fingerprints from the ice cream they were eating?)
Reset and Acros do also very good 1.5" headsets
http://www.reset-racing.com/
http://www.acros.de/acros_usa/02_products/index.php
http://www.reset-racing.com/
http://www.acros.de/acros_usa/02_products/index.php
I didn't get to feel the headset, because my boss put it on my bike when I was out of the shop but he said it was heavy as hell. My bottlerocket is now 42lbs and still gets up the hill, albeit a little bit slower. Got tired of pinching normal tubes, Heavy duty thorn resistant! only way to go.
not sure who stocks this HS..I did not have much luck with google... I would try go-ride
Done and done. I got the e13 reducers and the fsa headset through go-ride for cheap as a single reducing headset. I based my decision based on insertion depth of the cups and the replacibility of the bearings. Thanks! I will post the finished product in this thread next weekish.
So i tore down my bottlerocket this winter to steal some parts fort he park bike, i am about to begin putting it back together and think i lost the top cap for my FSA bearings in my e.13 cups. What can i do, i thought i read that you dont even need the top cap, is this true?
Has anyone tried any type of fix for this? I am really looking for the low profile top cap that came with the bearing set...
Has anyone tried any type of fix for this? I am really looking for the low profile top cap that came with the bearing set...
There's nothing wrong mechanically without running the top cap, although the ones with the rubber lip do offer some minute sealing protection. I have run them both ways with good success.
Hey I am getting my shizzle together today and will probably...not need my top cap. If you still need one and I don't need it I will give it to you. I will let you know for sure tonight after I get the 888's on....YEAH!!
Dude, you would be the man! Let me know if you have an extra around...
Email me at william.kirk@gmail.com
Thanks guys for the advice.
I got the forks on yesterday with 0 problems...as if it were meant to be. I immidiately drove to SC to hit the trails and see how they work. First things first I sessioned some jumps....oh yesssss. Then it was off to the gnar gnar for some railing and I have to say they may be borderline overbling but worth every single penny. The adjustments are almost intuitive and the travel is so plush it is crazy. Not to mention dead effin sexy. check attached. thanks for advice on cups and bearings all
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i just got my FSA Orbit Z1.5R installed and took the bike out for a quick trail test ride. it is a much different bike. i lost quite a bit of stack height from my Orbit Extreme. The steering is much nicer as the head angle is steeper. i am a bit nervous about how much height was lost on the top of the head tube. the bar feels low now. i have been running a 1" rise bar because the front felt too high. now that i am down on the stack height, i may need to go to 2" riser bars. i guess i could have just had the bottom cup installed from the Z1.5R and left the top alone. oh well. updates to follow.