Wow... this thing has been in the works for a LONG time... apparently the guys had a proto version of this "behind the counter" at I-Bike a few years back. Nice to see it finally come to fruition for them.direct mount stem from Thomson
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I like it very very much. I've always wanted to make a one-piece stem/crown, surprised they haven't come to market before. Integration rocks - lighter, stiffer, less to go wrong, less to maintain. Hell I'm all for a one-piece stem/crown/bar*! Obviously the downsides of that (and this) are price, and that you have to replace the whole lot should it break, but that's outweighed by the positives in my book.check this out,i hope you guy's are liking it what Hope has made
Another idea of mine - imagine how light a combined cassette/freehub body could be?
*which obviously wouldn't really have a stem at all, the bars would just emerge from either side of the crown, with the relevant bends to get the reach you want, etc.
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Here are some pics I took during Eurobike
http://43ride.com/events/eurobike2009/
http://43ride.com/events/eurobike2009/
First "messy" TLD kit I've seen that I quite like...
http://43ride.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/img_3552.jpg
http://43ride.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/img_3552.jpg
those two GTs are stunning!!!!
I prefer this for messy kit http://43ride.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/img_3450.jpg
but i think messy kit like that is better for race teams. its going to start to be a real eyesore once you see ten people wearing it on the hill
Cleanest straight tubed Dh bike I have seen in a while.
that thing is amazing! yay for less hydrofailing
If you look closely at the Thomson, the bars actually sits below the top of the crown. Maybe it's an illusion, but that would explain the extra beefy look.
In theory, you could get you bars below your headtube.
In theory, you could get you bars below your headtube.
http://www.cope-cycles.de/
adjusting the shock should be no problem because the downtube is open from below (as you can see in the background). a fender to keep the dirt away is in the making.
even though it kinda looks like it it's not really a DH frame that's meant to be raced.
170/190mm travel, 66° head angle and 4200g without shock isn't exactly what you look for in a race frame. still nice tough.
adjusting the shock should be no problem because the downtube is open from below (as you can see in the background). a fender to keep the dirt away is in the making.
even though it kinda looks like it it's not really a DH frame that's meant to be raced.
170/190mm travel, 66° head angle and 4200g without shock isn't exactly what you look for in a race frame. still nice tough.
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it seems scary to have the shock linkages exposed on the front side on the downtube like that, but all-in-all seems to be a rather clean bike. Looks alot like a dirt jump frame
Yes. Terrible offering imo and I love Thomson stuff.
It's not an illusion. I've been drooling over the prototype pic on my computer for a while now.
Super simple, insanely light, crazy stout, only 6 bolts, ridiculous FEA analysis, meticulous made in the USA manufacturing at mega tight tolerances.Just a blatantly simple and no nonsense way to bolt your bars to your bike. Who gives a crap about fancy curves, machined out excess material for looks, and pretty little engravings if they do nothing to make your bike stronger?
They "might" offer different height lower halves or stackable risers under the main piece to adjust bar height....but I doubt it. Sort of a waste considering the added cost and bins of piddly little parts to have to keep track of. I suggested it but there's not much justification to do it.
Pardon me. My efforts were to indicate that it has a phenomenal strength to weight ratio...but that just sounded so nerdy.
what the truck is this on the rear shock??
It's to collect data from the rear shock, Mojo is obsessed with graphs and numbers.what the truck is this on the rear shock??
awesome. it makes sense now that you said it
It's not an illusion. I've been drooling over the prototype pic on my computer for a while now.
Just a blatantly simple and no nonsense way to bolt your bars to your bike. Who gives a crap about fancy curves, machined out excess material for looks, and pretty little engravings if they do nothing to make your bike stronger?
They "might" offer different height lower halves or stackable risers under the main piece to adjust bar height....but I doubt it. Sort of a waste considering the added cost and bins of piddly little parts to have to keep track of. I suggested it but there's not much justification to do it.
It's nice and I'm well aware that you are partial too this company, but "rediculous FEA analysis" on a stem?? Only an engineer that works in the bike industry would think that a machined direct mount stem is that super complicated.
I could care less about the ID of the stem, but it definitely appears to be made with a keen sense to manufacturing and the finish should be second to none.
I'll be curious to see the cost. Being and American brand that is built in house, I'm sure they're doing their due diligence to reduce manufacturing cost and maximize profit for a very niche product.
It looks a bit like a strange thingy that comes with the nicolai ufo ST. Do they do the same or am I stupid?
Hope top crown / DM looks very nice, but not sold on the hinged top of the stem - krrreeeeky.
Now that is pretty wild. Are there currently anywhere carbon springs are used?Carbon spring:
The end of air shocks?
thats something completely different on the nicolai this "rod" is there for a force transfer from the downtube back to the seattube
that way they can use a ligther butted downtube for the frame.
the seattube has to be straight tube with "thick" walls anyway.
hope that makes sense in english :/
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Surprised no one has mentioned the idler.what the truck is this on the rear shock??
was just about to mention the idler, wonder how the orange rides with the altered chainline.....
and whatever people say about the imperial frames I think they look incredible, especially that factory Hope one. Nice to see new thinking from small companies. Anyone ridden one?
and whatever people say about the imperial frames I think they look incredible, especially that factory Hope one. Nice to see new thinking from small companies. Anyone ridden one?
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