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James

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Sep 11, 2001
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I will gladly smile while you eat you sandwich and I effortless climb up hill :p
Just wait until the other side though! That sammich will help pull me to a decisive coasting victory.*





*assuming you wait at the top...
 

SuspectDevice

Turbo Monkey
Aug 23, 2002
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379
Roanoke, VA
Screw knickers.
Get yourself a pair of wool Defeet Kneekers, a pair of Defeet shoecovers, a sleeveless midweight craft baselayer, a pair of wool Sockguy arm warmers and a mid weight vest. That will keep you warm and comfortable down into the mid to low 40 degree range, cost less and be far more versatile.

Pick up a few pair of Defeet Woolie Boolie socks while you're at it.

All you really need to get through a full-on NYC winter after all of that stuff is a nice thermal jacket (Giordana ones are bombproof) a few pairs of warm gloves, some roubaix fleece leg warmers and some proper thermal booties. Leg warmers are nice for every condition of course, but you don't really need a jacket until you get into the thirties.
 

dsotm

Monkey
Jul 21, 2006
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WRJ, VT
Screw knickers.
Get yourself a pair of wool Defeet Kneekers, a pair of Defeet shoecovers, a sleeveless midweight craft baselayer, a pair of wool Sockguy arm warmers and a mid weight vest. That will keep you warm and comfortable down into the mid to low 40 degree range, cost less and be far more versatile.

Pick up a few pair of Defeet Woolie Boolie socks while you're at it.

All you really need to get through a full-on NYC winter after all of that stuff is a nice thermal jacket (Giordana ones are bombproof) a few pairs of warm gloves, some roubaix fleece leg warmers and some proper thermal booties. Leg warmers are nice for every condition of course, but you don't really need a jacket until you get into the thirties.
Sounds about right............ Versatility is always nice.


BTW, when's your new website coming out?
 

SuspectDevice

Turbo Monkey
Aug 23, 2002
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Roanoke, VA
Sounds about right............ Versatility is always nice.


BTW, when's your new website coming out?
I'm not really all that motivated right now to work on it. Sales are already heavier than we can handle with our current production capacity and stock levels. I need to make sure that we've got some more bikes in production before we let people know much more about them. Heck, I've never even bought an ad or sent out a press release to any traditional media channels. Keeping things on the DL is pretty intentional. They call it anti-marketing...


There is a sort of hype to demand curve that you don't want to blow!
 

-dustin

boring
Jun 10, 2002
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austin
Screw knickers.
Get yourself a pair of wool Defeet Kneekers, a pair of Defeet shoecovers, a sleeveless midweight craft baselayer, a pair of wool Sockguy arm warmers and a mid weight vest. That will keep you warm and comfortable down into the mid to low 40 degree range, cost less and be far more versatile.

Pick up a few pair of Defeet Woolie Boolie socks while you're at it.

All you really need to get through a full-on NYC winter after all of that stuff is a nice thermal jacket (Giordana ones are bombproof) a few pairs of warm gloves, some roubaix fleece leg warmers and some proper thermal booties. Leg warmers are nice for every condition of course, but you don't really need a jacket until you get into the thirties.
This reminds me of the worst part about fall/ winter clothing....

gloves.

I still haven't found a sufficient, satisfactory pair of gloves for F/W use.
Want:
Thin
Windproof
Water resistent
NO GEL PADDING
 

SuspectDevice

Turbo Monkey
Aug 23, 2002
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379
Roanoke, VA
This reminds me of the worst part about fall/ winter clothing....

gloves.

I still haven't found a sufficient, satisfactory pair of gloves for F/W use.
Want:
Thin
Windproof
Water resistent
NO GEL PADDING
Look into pipe/spring gloves for Snowboarding. A bunch of us around here use paddling gloves for temperatures in the 30's. For temps in the 20's and below I use some Pearl gloves that are pretty bulky, I make sure that I stick a pair of Defeet gloves and an extra pair of mid-weight neoprene gloves in my pocket for higher-intensity parts of the ride and to avoid having to put wet gloves on after a stop. Bringing alternative layers is how I've always avoided major hand damage.
In 10 Massachusetts winters I've only had one or two rides where my glove strategy failed me.
 

CBJ

year old fart
Mar 19, 2002
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Screw knickers.
Get yourself a pair of wool Defeet Kneekers, a pair of Defeet shoecovers, a sleeveless midweight craft baselayer, a pair of wool Sockguy arm warmers and a mid weight vest. That will keep you warm and comfortable down into the mid to low 40 degree range, cost less and be far more versatile.

Pick up a few pair of Defeet Woolie Boolie socks while you're at it.

All you really need to get through a full-on NYC winter after all of that stuff is a nice thermal jacket (Giordana ones are bombproof) a few pairs of warm gloves, some roubaix fleece leg warmers and some proper thermal booties. Leg warmers are nice for every condition of course, but you don't really need a jacket until you get into the thirties.
I found a discounted pair of knickers for a really good price and a Gore windstopper jersey. The Kneekers are nice but I need more warmth all around and got a Knicker in the SuperRoubaix material. I don't like to be cold and will rather be a little bit too hot. I already have a lot of other winter stuff but might go for a new jacket later in the year and new pair of booties especially my old old booties are wearing out and not as windproof as the should be.
 
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dsotm

Monkey
Jul 21, 2006
151
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WRJ, VT
I'm not really all that motivated right now to work on it. Sales are already heavier than we can handle with our current production capacity and stock levels. I need to make sure that we've got some more bikes in production before we let people know much more about them. Heck, I've never even bought an ad or sent out a press release to any traditional media channels. Keeping things on the DL is pretty intentional. They call it anti-marketing...


There is a sort of hype to demand curve that you don't want to blow!
Gotcha...... completely understand. It's amazing what types of marketing can work dependent upon the product and/or customer base.
 

James

Carbon Porn Star
Sep 11, 2001
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Danbury, CT
I'm not really all that motivated right now to work on it. Sales are already heavier than we can handle with our current production capacity and stock levels. I need to make sure that we've got some more bikes in production before we let people know much more about them. Heck, I've never even bought an ad or sent out a press release to any traditional media channels. Keeping things on the DL is pretty intentional. They call it anti-marketing...


There is a sort of hype to demand curve that you don't want to blow!
I still want a Supertouch for this fall...maybe someday...and now I can't go to your site to look at pictures of them, curses!
 

SuspectDevice

Turbo Monkey
Aug 23, 2002
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379
Roanoke, VA
Medium is better - thank you for looking into it though :thumb:


Speaking of Cross - when will we see the first dics pro frames? Will there be hydraulic options?
Discs have already been around before. Cannondale was racing with them as far back as '98.

Sram and Shimano seem to be pretty tight-lipped about new mechanical calipers, mounting standards and hydraulic brakes.
I'm building our team bikes with discs this season, fwiw.
My guys only get one bike and discs are going to work much better throughout a muddy race.
We are looking at an extra pound of weight. Boohoo. Race bikes that weigh 16.5 pounds instead of 15.5 pounds...
 

dsotm

Monkey
Jul 21, 2006
151
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WRJ, VT
Discs have already been around before. Cannondale was racing with them as far back as '98.

Sram and Shimano seem to be pretty tight-lipped about new mechanical calipers, mounting standards and hydraulic brakes.
I'm building our team bikes with discs this season, fwiw.
My guys only get one bike and discs are going to work much better throughout a muddy race.
We are looking at an extra pound of weight. Boohoo. Race bikes that weigh 16.5 pounds instead of 15.5 pounds...
Easily the amount of weight added by mud stuck at the calipers, not to mention the performance difference.
 

SuspectDevice

Turbo Monkey
Aug 23, 2002
4,171
379
Roanoke, VA
Another question: Has there been development in Cross like in XC with 12 hour races and other new formats.
That would be horrible. Cyclocross is a sport that has been the same since the 1940's. If it's not an hour long race on a course that conforms with UCI rules it is not 'cross.
There is a race in the UK called the 3Peaks and one in PA called Ironcross that are a few hours long and covers a lot of ground point to point but no one considers those cx races. A race that covers terrain besides a 3-7 minute long closed circuit isn't 'cross. Anything else is just a bumpy road race with some running.
 

James

Carbon Porn Star
Sep 11, 2001
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Danbury, CT
That would be horrible. Cyclocross is a sport that has been the same since the 1940's. If it's not an hour long race on a course that conforms with UCI rules it is not 'cross.
There is a race in the UK called the 3Peaks and one in PA called Ironcross that are a few hours long and covers a lot of ground point to point but no one considers those cx races. A race that covers terrain besides a 3-7 minute long closed circuit is 'cross. Anything else is just a bumpy road race with some running.
It'd be kind of like a 400-meter dash, but over a marathon distance. SPRINT SPRINT SPRINT SPRINT!
 

SuspectDevice

Turbo Monkey
Aug 23, 2002
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379
Roanoke, VA
Hey, just waiting to see what Mickey needs or wants... :)
But I don't know what you have! Is the Cannondale clothing still as badass as it used to be?
Jeremy Powers just got a bunch of Cannondale shorts and Jackets to train in. That stuff still seems to be as badass as it was 10 years ago when it was still made in Bedford...
 

dsotm

Monkey
Jul 21, 2006
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WRJ, VT
I had some about two years ago. It was fantastic as far as fit and comfort, but durability was terrible (about 2000 miles before the seams went).
 

James

Carbon Porn Star
Sep 11, 2001
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Danbury, CT
But I don't know what you have! Is the Cannondale clothing still as badass as it used to be?
Jeremy Powers just got a bunch of Cannondale shorts and Jackets to train in. That stuff still seems to be as badass as it was 10 years ago when it was still made in Bedford...
Hell, even I don't know what I have anymore...

I haven't seen the C'dale stuff yet honestly, I'm living in a bubble sometimes I think...
 

dsotm

Monkey
Jul 21, 2006
151
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WRJ, VT
Let me know. If I knew the durability was good, I'd buy a bunch more in a heartbeat. They fit and felt better than anything that I currently have.
 

SuspectDevice

Turbo Monkey
Aug 23, 2002
4,171
379
Roanoke, VA
Clearly James needs to trade me some of the 'dale clothing for some CX frame discountage. I'll take 2 pair of LE carbons in Small, a wool cap and a slice plus jacket in Small as well for some evaluation...

FWIW I have a Volvo/Cannondale team duffle bag that has been to ~400 races and dozens of airports. Last week it finally started separating from the zipper on the shoe compartment.
 

blue

boob hater
Jan 24, 2004
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california
FWIW I have a Volvo/Cannondale team duffle bag that has been to ~400 races and dozens of airports. Last week it finally started separating from the zipper on the shoe compartment.
Warranty that sh!t! ;)

Anyone have experience with PI's cold weather stuff? There's a pair of their kneewarmers at the LBS for cheap, but not sold on the durability.