Just wondering what you guys seem to think, I havent ridden any forumlas except the 1, and it wasnt bad, but didnt have much bite (but they were pretty new) Ridden stroker 4 pots, but wasnt hugely impressed, but they werent bad. This year I will be trying 1 of the 2. Ill be using them for DH, and coming off saints. Weight isnt an issue, power is what im looking for. What do you monkeys think