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Brian HCM#1

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San Francisco mayor, 49ers owners offended by 'training' video

By MICHAEL WARREN, Associated Press Writer
June 1, 2005
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- An in-house video meant to prepare 49ers players for dealing with the media backfired on the NFL team Wednesday after it was leaked to the San Francisco Chronicle.

The 15-minute film, featuring racist jokes, lesbian soft-porn and topless blondes, features the team's public relations director, Kirk Reynolds, impersonating San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom in the mayor's office and other city scenes.

Now the mayor and the city's gay leaders are outraged, the team's owners are embarrassed and Reynolds is leaving the organization. The Chronicle described the film and published an image showing Reynolds with the half-naked women under a screaming headline on Wednesday.

Reynolds called it a ``terrible mistake.''

``I'm more sorry than anybody,'' he said in a phone interview with The Associated Press on Wednesday night. ``My intention was to deliver a message important to our team. Certainly the execution and my decision-making were way out of line. I deeply regret it.''

Reynolds said he made the video to coach players on handling media questions in diverse San Francisco -- and never meant it for public consumption.

The video was shown to players last August during training camp in Santa Clara, where it was part of a diversity workshop.

``I certainly offended people and I never intended to offend anybody,'' Reynolds said. ``Anybody who knows me, that's not a reflection of who I am. I did something for a certain audience that got out of hand. ... It was contradictory to my values and beliefs and contradictory to the team's values. I completely apologize to anybody who was offended.''

General manager Terry Donahue showed a snippet to team owner John York in January, just one day before he was fired, and sent a copy to York at York's request in March. Team lawyer Ed Goines got the tape about three weeks ago, the Chronicle reported.

Team owners Denise and John York on Wednesday called the video offensive, inexcusable and ``absolutely contradictory to the ideals and values of the San Francisco 49ers.''

``Ostensibly, the video was created to raise player awareness about how to deal with the media and to demonstrate by example how poor conduct can unintentionally make news,'' the Yorks' statement said. ``Unfortunately, this video is an example in itself.''

An NFL statement supported the Yorks' viewpoint.

``We share their view that the video was inappropriate, offensive in every respect, and of no value whatsoever,'' the league said. ``It does not reflect the 49ers' values and traditions or those of the league and its member clubs.''

The Yorks didn't address Reynolds' future. Reynolds said he told the team recently he planned to ``depart before training camp'' to explore other interests, and said this incident would likely speed up the process.

``I'm focusing on dealing with the issue and what I've created,'' Reynolds said. ``I'm going to stand up to what I've done.''

Goines said in a statement that the team's executives never reviewed or approved of the video, and has since issued ``appropriate discipline to the person or persons responsible.''

Reynolds opens the film sitting behind the mayor's desk, then goes to Chinatown, where a 49ers team consultant uses racial slurs about the Chinese community. Next comes a topless, lesbian wedding filmed at a strip club and officiated by Reynolds, again impersonating the mayor.

``I know the courts say we can't do this,'' Reynolds says before the happy couple engages in heavy petting. ``We make our own rules here in San Francisco.''

Reynolds then goes to SBC Park, where acting as ``mayor'' he throws out the opening pitch, then takes a bribe from the catcher, who thanks him for supporting ``hookers and booze.''

``You do something controversial, you say something controversial, it will have an impact on this team. So remember, be mindful of your actions,'' Reynolds says, wearing only a towel before joining three topless blondes for a group hug in a strip club's dressing room. ``What you do is not only a reflection of yourself. It's a reflection of the San Francisco 49ers.''

Newsom -- shown the tape by the Chronicle -- was not amused.

``It wasn't right to do it to the Asian community, particularly the Chinese community. It was wrong to do it to the gay and lesbian community. It was wrong to exploit women as they were exploited in this video,'' the mayor told Fox affiliate KTVU on Wednesday. ``The video is reprehensible.''

The mayor's staff will now insist on seeing the content when it grants requests for filming inside City Hall, said his aide, Peter Ragone.

Leaders of the city's Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender community weren't satisfied by the many apologetic statements issued by the team. They claimed the video fits a pattern of discrimination within the organization that dates to homophobic comments by former 49ers running back Garrison Hearst in 2002.

``The 49ers benefit from their relationship with the city,'' said Thom Lynch, president of the SF LGBT Center, ``but they have responded by belittling and ridiculing the diversity of the city.''

Coach Mike Nolan, who was left to face the media Wednesday at the 49ers training camp, stressed that the video reflected decisions made by an old ``regime,'' and that York has since put the team in the right direction.

``I will say this: We do a lot of the sensitivity training, and we do it in the right manner. This is an example of how you do not do it,'' said Nolan, who was hired in January. ``That's not what the 49ers will be about.''
 

sugarNspice

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Mar 18, 2004
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I think people need to quit being so friggin sensitive. They always take things & blow them out of proportion. Lotsa folks make gay jokes and women are exploited everywhere, so what's the big deal. And racist jokes, puleese. I'm sure the film was meant to be a joke against the media.

Freedom of speech baby. Gotta love it. I still love the 49ers. :p
 

llkoolkeg

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Sep 5, 2001
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Westy said:
It's California, there is a protest or candlelight vigil on every other street corner.
...yet still, so many fellow Californians sleep fitfully- hungry or under bridges. Much better to step from protest corner into your new burbs-bound VW than to volunteer regularly with a church, civic or service organization.
 

Westy

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llkoolkeg said:
...yet still, so many fellow Californians sleep fitfully- hungry or under bridges. Much better to step from protest corner into your new burbs-bound VW than to volunteer regularly with a church, civic or service organization.
I'm sure they hold at least one candlelight vigil for the homeless each year befor driving home to their multi-million dollar homes......
 

N8 v2.0

Not the sharpest tool in the shed
Oct 18, 2002
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Westy said:
I'm sure they hold at least one candlelight vigil for the homeless each year befor driving home to their multi-million dollar homes......

The homeless in CA live in the $500k and under homes... and are forced to drive 3 year old cars.
 

Toshi

Harbinger of Doom
Oct 23, 2001
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sanjuro said:
If the jokes were directed towards blacks instead of Asians or gays, would the athletes be laughing?
:stupid:

just because "everybody does it" doesn't mean it's right.

the video said:
First stop, Chinatown. [Team Public Relations director Kirk] Reynolds says the team reads everything written about the players and the organization. Then, to illustrate the point, a bespectacled, buck-toothed Chinese man in an aloha shirt (played by then-49ers trainer and martial arts expert George Chung) is asked to translate an Asian newspaper story.

Sure -- the man says in theatrical Asian accent. "Tim Latte (Rattay, a Niners quarterback). He feel good now. He feeling good. No plactice with the team, so most of the time he play with himself."

Another show stopper: "49ers love being in community. Very patriotic . . . support president and his George Bush erection."

"Erection?" Reynolds asks.

"Yes," the Chinese man responds. "It say, 'You like Bush -- then you like his erection.'

"My name is Suck Hung,'' the Chinese man says as he's leaving. "My brother's name is Suck Young -- my whole family suck."
stupid, stupid, stupid.
 

sanjuro

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Sep 13, 2004
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I did see some of the video on the TV news. Some of it was not too bad and some of it was horrible.

The gay joke was when a "prisoner" (played by a linebacker) was thrown in jail, and the PR Man made the classic prison joke about soap and bending over in the shower.

The biggest gay slam was a send-up of a marriage ceremony, where two women (attired like strippers) start french kissing after getting married.

There was plenty of other off-colored stuff, like swearing fans and nude bimbos.

The biggest insult to me was the Asian stuff. Buck teeth, bad accent, this was something out of the 40's, not this century.

You might say all of this is just jokes. Well, there was one segment where a black linebacker played a bum asking for money. The PR Director replied, "Get a job". The real punchline leaves out a word at the end, a black epithet. While it would be in line with the rest of the video, would anyone think that would be funny?

In a place like San Francisco, with large segments of gays, Asians, and, frankly, vocal female advocates, this video is way inappropriate. Considering there are no gays, Asians, or women on the 49ers, these jokes look alot worse.
 

OGRipper

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Feb 3, 2004
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The best part about this story is that this was the PUBLIC RELATIONS honcho. IN SAN FRANCISCO. Gee, ya think racism and sexism are good for public relations here? Smooth. :p
 

Jeremy R

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Nov 15, 2001
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punkassean said:
4 words

blown out of proportion
Yeah, I agree.
Its super lame they made a tape with racial crap in it, but wasn't it supposed to be funny to get their attention and then prove a point.
I don't see how it is any different than that white chick from Mad TV playing
Miss Kwan. Everybody laughs it up over that. I don't know, maybe they are both wrong.
But this never would have happened if the 49ers were doing what they should be doing - Practicing. That team does not have time to watch tapes.
They suck. How about quit laughing at racial jokes and throw the ball around some.
 

Damn True

Monkey Pimp
Sep 10, 2001
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Between a rock and a hard place.
Funny how John York only found out about the tape AFTER Terry Donohue got canned by the 49ers, despite the fact that the PR dude was hired by Terry Donohue who was the President and GM of the team.

The tape, while tasteless and lame was intended to illustrate to players how NOT to act in front of the media, and how to be aware of prejudice etc. It was intended to do the same thing as the sexual harrasment tapes I'm sure most of us have seen at work in which people portray overtly eggregious examples of innappropriate behavior.

Terry Donohue is a schmuck, John York is a bigger schmuck.
 

OGRipper

back alley ripper
Feb 3, 2004
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I agree it's blown out of proportion. But it also confirms what a lot of us already know: Mainstream sports organizations are full of neanderthals who enjoy pulling the wool over the ticket-buying, commercial-watching public with a wink and a smile. It's like: "Hey guys, we have to do this "PC" training thing. We don't really believe it but we gotta do it, so let's at least have some fun with it. Nobody will ever see it anyway. Except maybe those fags at the Chronicle, but what are they gonna do about it?"

:stosh:
 

sanjuro

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Sep 13, 2004
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Pretty harmless?!? Wander into Daly City and pull that sh*t there. I just came from there and I was little nervous, and I'm Chinese!

The big difference between professional comedians and this crap: professional comedians are trying to get people to laugh at them, not at some other group. This sh*t was meant to be kept secret from the public, for very good reason.

I heard one of the players compare this to Dave Chappelle. I think in the broadest strokes this might be similiar, but it is way more sophisticated. Jokes like the Wu-Tang joining the Asians is not the same as a buck tooth Chinaman.
 

dan-o

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It was an internal-viewing only video geared towards pro athletes (not the sharpest tools in the shed). The conclusion ( final video in the link, with the topless chicks)actually was pretty progressive in its message, speaking of importance of diversity, representing the team in public etc. Was it tasteless, maybe, but hardly worth the uproar IMO.

Finding this video more offensive than the Chapelle "Racial Draft" skit is nothing more than a case of thin skin.
 

dan-o

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Brian HCM#1 said:
Dude, that epasode cracks me up everytime I see it. Whites choose Colin Powell :D
And get Condolezza Rice as a freebie... my favorite Chapelle skit ever.
 

sanjuro

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dan-o said:
It was an internal-viewing only video geared towards pro athletes (not the sharpest tools in the shed). The conclusion ( final video in the link, with the topless chicks)actually was pretty progressive in its message, speaking of importance of diversity, representing the team in public etc. Was it tasteless, maybe, but hardly worth the uproar IMO.
This is a very hard one to explain, but I will give it a try:

I have noticed many people, whites and blacks specifically, do not take much offense to Asian slurs, while they might be very offended by other racial slurs.

Part of this is our seamless integration with other racial groups, some of this is other groups' lack of knowledge about Asians.

However, I feel this is extremely offensive, much more so by the fact that is was designed to be kept secret.

Put it this way, I know it is a joke. No one in my family looks like that or talks like that. But I don't know if the football players know or understand it is a joke. I know plenty of people who think this is how Asians look and speak.

So do you think I want to watch people who I think have no respect for me?
 

punkassean

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Feb 3, 2002
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It's not that the video was "kept secret", it was an internal training video not for public consumption. We don't watch Kmart's training videos and thus they don't make them with us in mind.

I'm sorry if it was offensive to you (I haven't watched it personally) but I really don't think (judging by what's been said here) that is was "wrong" exactly. I have friends of many different races and we all talk jokingly in various ethnic voices all the time and no one gets their feelings hurt. I'm not saying you don't have the right to be offended but I think an old expression is appropriate.

"Like water off a duck's back."

Just shake it off and don't let it bother you. It's not about YOU so don't take it that way. :)
 

sanjuro

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punkassean said:
It's not that the video was "kept secret", it was an internal training video not for public consumption. We don't watch Kmart's training videos and thus they don't make them with us in mind.

I'm sorry if it was offensive to you (I haven't watched it personally) but I really don't think (judging by what's been said here) that is was "wrong" exactly. I have friends of many different races and we all talk jokingly in various ethnic voices all the time and no one gets their feelings hurt. I'm not saying you don't have the right to be offended but I think an old expression is appropriate.

"Like water off a duck's back."

Just shake it off and don't let it bother you. It's not about YOU so don't take it that way. :)
Well after fits of crying I am trying to work through my pain....

I don't want to known as the over sensitive guy to Asian cracks. I told you why this sh*t is wrong.

If you want to learn something, listen to what myself and other people to have to say. If you want to defend something indefensable, good luck.

BTW, I could make my point by spouting some racist sh*t against black players, but that would be worse than this video because I know better.

I hate the 49ers anyway, so it is not like I am tearing up my season tickets.
 

punkassean

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I don't think you are a whiner dude. And whether you like the 'niners or not means nil. I was simply suggesting that it might help you to just let these types of things go... :)

People get very offended over seemingly minor things and as far as I'm concerned this is one of those instances. But you are entitled to your opinion and your feelings.
 

dh girlie

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dan-o said:
It was an internal-viewing only video geared towards pro athletes (not the sharpest tools in the shed). The conclusion ( final video in the link, with the topless chicks)actually was pretty progressive in its message, speaking of importance of diversity, representing the team in public etc. Was it tasteless, maybe, but hardly worth the uproar IMO.

Finding this video more offensive than the Chapelle "Racial Draft" skit is nothing more than a case of thin skin.
oh come now...those professional athletes had to graduate from college! :D