Hadley Hubs?

Acadian · Aug 31, 2004

Hadley hubs are great. I used them on my DH and trail bike.

Super solid, bomb proof, easy to service and great CS standing behind their products.

can't really go wrong with Hadley Racing IMO. :thumb:

binary visions · Aug 31, 2004

Doublewides = :dead:

They're incredibly soft material and flat spot very easily. I'm not sure I've ever even heard of someone who had a Doublewide that was more than a month or so old without huge flatspots in it.

You're really going to save money going to Hadley hubs? Isn't the price pretty similar?

If you actually want to save some real money, go with some Hope Bulb hubs.

Echo · Aug 31, 2004

A buddy of mine just got an Arrow rim, I'll ask him where he got it.

Transcend · Aug 31, 2004

damn, I have 3 or 4 24" rims sitting here. Doublewides, atomlab etc. I will let ya have the whole bunch for $25 if you want them that bad!

Also, the atomlab rims are NOT that bad. Especially the 24" ones. Iw oudl take one of these over a doublewide any day of the week.

binary visions · Aug 31, 2004

Knuck:

http://www.speedgoat.com/product.asp?part=15913&cat=260&brand=49

That's everything you want, plus ten bucks or whatever the funbolts themselves cost. The "Heavy Duty" hub includes the funbolt ready axle, and stainless steel driveshell.

But the Hadleys are good too, don't let me dissuade you, I was just curious if the cost difference was actually significant enough to not go with the hubs you had your heart set on.

Sun rims don't suck at all, just the Doublewides

Can't you get the Sun Mag30 in 24"? I don't have any first hand experience but I was under the impression that the Mag30 was pretty much as indestructible as it gets (very similar to the Arrows)...

JRB · Aug 31, 2004

Hope Bulbs will save you some good dough.

Do single track 24s suck too? I don't know since I am an XC weenie.

MMcG · Aug 31, 2004

I would love to build up a wheel set based on Hope Bulbs for my Belair

How much is a rear hope bulb hub approximately??

binary visions · Aug 31, 2004

$190 for the rear Hope Bulb... They sell a bolt-on conversion too. Ti freebody. The front hub is $100, convertable between QR and 20mm...

It's a pretty solid deal if you ask me. All cartridge bearings.

MMcG · Aug 31, 2004

I have a 20mm hope bulb laced to a singletrack on my cheeta - light hub and blinging red ano too!

Is $190 for a rear hub a good bang for the buck price? What would be the next best step down from a Hope Bulb in your estimation?

binary visions · Aug 31, 2004

The DT Swiss Onyx hubs have held up well on my buddy's bike. They can be had for $120, but no cartridge bearings or Ti freebody, plus the engagement is half as fast as the Hope.

Frankly, the best bang-for-the-buck can be had with Shimano XT disc hubs. An even $50 gets you a reliable, easily rebuildable hub. They are boat anchors though, and have pretty slow engagement, but you can buy almost four of 'em for the price of one Bulb.

The next step up from Hope Bulbs starts to be things like Hadley and Chris King... Very pricey.

JRB · Aug 31, 2004

Knuckleslammer said:
What type of engagement mechanism does the Hope hubs use? I know the hadley's have a 108 point system, but how many pawls do they use?
Knuck

Hope has 3 pawl. They are nice and grabby. I don't know how many teeth, but will see what I can find. Super easy maintenance. I have changed bearings and lost a pawl. Called and had new ones in 3 days for $9 for pawls and springs. Cool customer support. They don't care if the dealers sell cheap like King gets all bent about and they will sell direct. It is at retail, but they do sell direct.

binary visions · Aug 31, 2004

Knuckleslammer said:
What type of engagement mechanism does the Hope hubs use? I know the hadley's have a 108 point system, but how many pawls do they use?
Knuck

I don't remember but I want to say the Bulbs have 2 pawls. Can be converted to 10mm bolt on or 12mm T.A.

Bulbs have 10 degrees between engagements (36 points) - for reference, the 108 pt. Hadley has 3.3 degrees between engagements, and the CK has 5 degrees (72 "points", though the engagement mechanism is different). Shimano has 20 degrees between engagements.

edit: ignore my comment about the pawls, loco has you covered there. Everything else in my post is true though

JRB · Aug 31, 2004

36 points sounds right, but I am sure about 3 pawls. I can pull the cassette body tonight and count them. Like I said, they are plenty fast.

binary visions · Aug 31, 2004

loco-gringo said:
36 points sounds right, but I am sure about 3 pawls. I can pull the cassette body tonight and count them. Like I said, they are plenty fast.

I'm sure you're right about the pawls. I know I'm right about the engagements. We should go into business together

MMcG · Aug 31, 2004

binary - I have XT disc hubs on my Belair and yep they are boat anchors, but they've held up great, but with the Z1FR on that bike now it's inching up their in the weight department and I've also noticed that my rear hub isn't as "smooth" as it was several months ago.

I am sort of slowly contemplating getting a red Hope bulb rear hub and building up a whole new trail bike wheelset based on that hub combination.......but that could be a ways off now.

Zark · Aug 31, 2004

binary visions said:
Can't you get the Sun Mag30 in 24"? I don't have any first hand experience but I was under the impression that the Mag30 was pretty much as indestructible as it gets (very similar to the Arrows)...

Yup, very tough indeed. I couldn't kill one despite my best efforts.
They are also tough to mount tires to :eviltongu

binary visions · Aug 31, 2004

Zark said:
Yup, very tough indeed. I couldn't kill one despite my best efforts.
They are also tough to mount tires to :eviltongu

...as are all Sun rims

It's an excercise in knuckle-destruction trying to get my Michelins off my Rhyno Lites...

JRB · Aug 31, 2004

binary visions said:
I'm sure you're right about the pawls. I know I'm right about the engagements. We should go into business together

I'm game. I am starting to hate my job.

narlus · Aug 31, 2004

i've had both hadley and hope hubs. no complaints from either. the mag30 is a heavy rim, but pretty much indestructible. i've got a set on my imp which have seen their share of 90 corner landings w/ no issues.

mr.terrible · Sep 1, 2004

MMcG said:
I have a 20mm hope bulb laced to a singletrack on my cheeta - light hub and blinging red ano too!

Is $190 for a rear hub a good bang for the buck price? What would be the next best step down from a Hope Bulb in your estimation?

Hope also has the XC hubs on their lineup. Don't be foolled by the name, they are actually pretty tough units. I think an XC on the rear is your best bet, if you don't need an 150mm/12mm-axle. The Bulb is a very good hub too. I have one on my Dh-bike and it has served me really well.

http://www.hopetech.com/products/dis_02.htm

Cash-Money · Sep 1, 2004

arrow rims are easy to mount tires on, but you have to slide them on, not force them. Halo makes some nice 24" rims for cheap. the combat SAS is double eyeletted and very strong, comes in white, black and gold. gold halos on gold hadleys with black spokes :thumb:

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