[dlb]

Well those are not my words, a couple of bud's were at BB racing this weekend and while in the lift line they had a short conversation with a DH pro. I forgot his name but can dig that out later on if needed. He had the Mono M4's front and rear, said they work ok on a shorter hill like BB but can and will fade on a longer DH run. Also said that back east there is no support at the races like Hayes.

Does this sound true? Any of you Hope riders having fading troubles? I have been planning on using a M4 front and a Mono Mini out back and the two freinds have been planning on tring a M6 in the front.

 

[Swine]

hayes and south east rock!:eviltongu

i know nothing of hopes

 

[WestCoastHucker]

for years in CO. i never had one single fading issue on some nice long DH runs. wayyyyyyy longer than the weak big bear trails....
those were the DH4's though

 

[The Kadvang]

Mine have had no issues so far, but I haven't taken them down anything huge.

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[The Kadvang]

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[The Kadvang]

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[Brian HCM#1]

I haven't heard of fading with the M4's, but race support I can understand since i don't think they make it to the East Coast.

 

[Brian HCM#1]

Originally posted by The Kadvang
Mine have had no issues so far, but I haven't taken them down anything huge.

Countdown until Brian detonates upon this thread...

Too F'n funny.....LOL

 

[BillT]

I would imagine that fade issues are more related to pad selection as opposed to some inherent flaw with the calipers. I had EBC gold's on my Enduro 4's and they would fade on a long downhill where I'd drag the brakes alot but that was because the pad compound was specifically designed to be long lasting and not for downhill/high heat applications. I now use the EBC red's and while they don't last nearly as long as the gold's, their efficient operating temperature is much higher and I have yet to experience any fade at all.

 

[Brian HCM#1]

Originally posted by BillT
I would imagine that fade issues are more related to pad selection as opposed to some inherent flaw with the calipers. I had EBC gold's on my Enduro 4's and they would fade on a long downhill where I'd drag the brakes alot but that was because the pad compound was specifically designed to be long lasting and not for downhill/high heat applications. I now use the EBC red's and while they don't last nearly as long as the gold's, their efficient operating temperature is much higher and I have yet to experience any fade at all.

Greens also work well, not as grabby as the reds, but nice to get some use out of them before replacing. I was going through reds in 3-4 days @ Northstar.

 

[Matt D]

Originally posted by Acadian
was he sponsored by Hayes by any chance?

I doubt it, since he had Hopes on his bike

 

[BillT]

Originally posted by Brian HCM#1
Greens also work well, not as grabby as the reds, but nice to get some use out of them before replacing. I was going through reds in 3-4 days @ Northstar.

I haven't run the greens yet, but I may try them next. The golds that ran for about year still look pretty new.

 

[Brian HCM#1]

Originally posted by BillT
I haven't run the greens yet, but I may try them next. The golds that ran for about year still look pretty new.

I would dump the golds, they were ment for wet/muddy riding only.

 

[narlus]

Originally posted by Brian HCM#1
I would dump the golds, they were ment for wet/muddy riding only.

so they should be stock on Hopes sold in the UK.

 

[Chris R]

quote:
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Originally posted by narlus
so they should be stock on Hopes sold in the UK.
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Yup.... They are

 

[BillT]

As I live in Florida and only get to do anything resembling downhilling once or twice a year tops, I just run reds all the time. Just trail riding with the reds doesn't wear them out that quickly (unlike when I go out west and have to bring an extra set for a weeks worth of riding).

 

[BigEBiker]

that was me. they are really inconsistent and after a hard run on a longer trail they won't even lock up the wheels. the lever feel stays the same so it has something to do with the pads i think. other than that they work well, i just don't want to be in w. va and be stuck with a hole in the line and can't do anything about it. mark, why are you so interested in who said it anyways?

Ian

 

[HGR Frucci]

Although I endorse the Hopes (had no trouble with mine yet), I think the key is: Don't drag your brakes and you won't notice fade; or don't use your brakes as much at all!

 

[General Lee]

Originally posted by Brian HCM#1
Greens also work well, not as grabby as the reds, but nice to get some use out of them before replacing. I was going through reds in 3-4 days @ Northstar.

!!!!!!! 3-4 days???? damn i got an entire rainy season out of one set, and i did 20 races. must be the dust out there or something. i remember big bear the year it rained/snowed and the pads were good for like 2 runs, so i'm guessing its the dirt.

 

[BigEBiker]

yo mark, that sounds good, i'm already on the east coast getting ready for the open. i'll get you an address to ship the pads to. i'll pay you back when i get home, ~ a month. ps, i usually don't have problems dragging brakes, i'm pretty sure that's not it.

 

[buildyourown]

Originally posted by HGR Frucci
Although I endorse the Hopes (had no trouble with mine yet), I think the key is: Don't drag your brakes and you won't notice fade; or don't use your brakes as much at all!

Read: They are great brakes, as long as you don't use them.

Yugos are awesome cars, as long as you don't drive them.

I'm not trying to knock on you, that just came out sounding weak.