[Myles]

Good day,

I have a question regarding the Mono6 rear caliper. I would like to know the distance between the two cap screws (part #16 and 17). Those two screws retains to the IS bracket. I'm asking because presently I have a floating brake system that is post-mount (on a 2004 Balfa BB7) and would have like to compare this distance to the one on my Hayes rear brake. I'm a bit fed up of my rear brake and would like to upgrade to a much more powerful brake.

What do you thinck?


Thanks alot for you help

 

[The Kadvang]

Brian we are waiting for you...

 

[Jm_]

Coaster Brake.

 

[MikeD]

I think if you have Hayes 8" and they're not powerful, you need to get your brakes looked at by a pro...

Not to say the MonoTi6 wouldn't be a cool upgrade, but that Hayes should lock up with a single finger.

 

[buildyourown]

I don't think that will work. The direct mount of the floater arm is so far out, that I don't see there being room for an adapter. One of the new Avid Juicy caliper's might fit. I haven't used them, but are the hope's supposed to be more powerful? I have always heard that the hopes offer superior modulation but that the hayes have more power overall.

 

[Curb Hucker]

have always heard that the hopes offer superior modulation but that the hayes have more power overall.

My hopes modulate better than anything, and can lock up using my pinky finger while going fast with a 200lbs rider, more power than all my buddies hayes

and im almost certian that the adapter holes on the mono6 are not the same spacing as hayes

 

[Smelly]

Brian we are waiting for you...

ha! i thought the exact same thing when i saw the post title...

 

[buildyourown]

My hopes modulate better than anything, and can lock up using my pinky finger while going fast with a 200lbs rider, more power than all my buddies hayes

and im almost certian that the adapter holes on the mono6 are not the same spacing as hayes

Yeah but, being from Chicago, have you ever tryed them on a hill?

 

[Espen]

Call Hope! Maybe the kit that you can use on the new Monsters might work on your floater. I am not sure but, maybe you need a 225mm rotor.

E

 

[Myles]

Thanks for you input. I'll call Hope

 

[Brian HCM#1]

It's approx 57mm

 

[Brian HCM#1]

Yeah but, being from Chicago, have you ever tryed them on a hill?

He once rode down his driveway and jumped off a curb.

 

[Yeti-Freak]

i just got a mount made to fit them to my Yeti DH9... check it out. You could possibly get somthing similar made up..... All you need is a mate with some big machines that do stuff.....

 

[Lizard0fthetrai]

violent volante gets an A+ for the sweetest avatar ever...where the hell do you guys find this stuff...

 

[Curb Hucker]

violent volante gets an A+ for the sweetest avatar ever...where the hell do you guys find this stuff...

madthumbs.com neaky:

 

[crashing_sux]

Damn, I wish my Mono 6 was that strong. I can't even do a nose manual now. Funny, I was telling one of the local shop mechanics that I just got Hopes and he told me that if he was "forced" to run Hopes the first thing he would do is pull the bleed screws out and put teflon tape on them as they are known for leaking.

I figured there was no way a brand new brake that goes for over $250 would have something that cheap ass going on but just to be sure I took a look at my front caliper, which I had only been running two days and sure enough there was fluid leaking very slowly out of the bleed screw and onto the pads. Nice, brand new brake and allready I need to pull the screw out, tape it, re-bleed them, and buy a new set of pads.

I'm running Hopes front and rear and they aren't nearly as strong as the Saints (I do prefer them to Hayes though) and while you're probably hear someone pipe up with a fix for any Hope problem you could have I've figured out that there are 300 different ways to make your Hopes work better because there are 300 different ways they can work crappy.

 

[Curb Hucker]

every pair of hopes ive ever owned had a lack of power out of the box. Heres my fix;

use a propane torch and torch all of the pads for about 30 seconds. Get a med. grit sandpaper and sand down the pad surface just a bit. Then wash the pads and rotors good with rubbing alcohol on a towel. End result gets you super powerful brakes

 

[Brian HCM#1]

My method..................Bolt on and ride Actually my rear M6 came in with a bad bleed, but was quickly fixed. Out of the box Hayes are more powerful and stop better. Hopes need a few good long DH runs to peoperly break them in.

 

[DLo]

And then one pad wears out 4x faster than the others.

 

[crashing_sux]

Sweet

My M4 on the rear just did just that. All four pads are worn different amounts, from one being gone, to another being almost new. Now I have to by a new set of pads (which nobody in town carries of course, and this is Whistler!) when only one is worn out.

Let me guess, there's a fix. Nice to know mine aren't the only ones that sucked out of the box but by the time you pay for them (allready spendy) then spend the time to fix them yourselves (bleed, sand, torch, pray, repeat) or have a shop do it they are way to friggen expensive.

 

[DLo]

Actually I'm not so sure that's the Hope's fault. I found out there was play in my rear hub. Maybe that made it so it wore funny? Gotta fix that.

I love my Hopes when they work properly. If I were good enough to work on them myself, I wouldn't complain at all. They just feel so much nicer than Hayes!

 

[Brian HCM#1]

If I were good enough to work on them myself, I wouldn't complain at all. They just feel so much nicer than Hayes!

I shall teach you young Jedi

 

[crashing_sux]

Actually I'm not so sure that's the Hope's fault. I found out there was play in my rear hub. Maybe that made it so it wore funny? Gotta fix that.

I love my Hopes when they work properly. If I were good enough to work on them myself, I wouldn't complain at all. They just feel so much nicer than Hayes!

With mine it's definitely the brake, you can watch as you squeeze the lever that the pistons don't push out at the same rate. Probably needs a rebuild or something but I'm hesitant to throw anymore money at them.

I wonder if this is why Hope went to two long pads on the six pots instead of six little pads?

 

[Brian HCM#1]

With mine it's definitely the brake, you can watch as you squeeze the lever that the pistons don't push out at the same rate. Probably needs a rebuild or something but I'm hesitant to throw anymore money at them.

I wonder if this is why Hope went to two long pads on the six pots instead of six little pads?

With a screwdriver or 2 hold the good pistons back while you pump the lever, this will break these pistons free. After that hold back any piston till you get them moving in perfect harmony You can do this with the wheel and pads in place, sometimes it helps to have someone else helping you.

 

[narlus]

while you're probably hear someone pipe up with a fix for any Hope problem you could have I've figured out that there are 300 different ways to make your Hopes work better because there are 300 different ways they can work crappy.

ahgahahaaahahaa!!!!

 

[DLo]

With mine it's definitely the brake, you can watch as you squeeze the lever that the pistons don't push out at the same rate. Probably needs a rebuild or something but I'm hesitant to throw anymore money at them.

I wonder if this is why Hope went to two long pads on the six pots instead of six little pads?

So is it possible that my rear hub had anything to do with it? Either way I should probably do a rebuild of both my brakes. Seems like it requires it once a year. I wondered about the 2 long pads as well, but I don't think that would make a difference? The entire pad itself would be worn unevenly then, right? I actually had one of my pads wear out once in a diagonal plane That was weird.

 

[Curb Hucker]

I wondered about the 2 long pads as well, but I don't think that would make a difference? The entire pad itself would be worn unevenly then, right?

Hmm, my 03 M4s had the pads wear uneven once, but the M6s this year are wearing the 2 long pads evenly and on a level plane. Are the mono 4s still using 4 pads or just 2? Ive got one of those coming next week, along with a mini

 

[Joe Pozer]

I must be the luckiest SOB on earth because my M4s worked great straight out of the box. It only took a couple of runs for them to wear in and now they stop great. I just put a 205mm rear rotor and I'm actually thinking of going back to the 185mm because it doesn't lock up as easy.

 

[DLo]

I must be the luckiest SOB on earth because my M4s worked great straight out of the box. It only took a couple of runs for them to wear in and now they stop great. I just put a 205mm rear rotor and I'm actually thinking of going back to the 185mm because it doesn't lock up as easy.

Yeah, but the question is, how long have you run them? Took me a little less than a year, and the rear started acting up.

 

[Joe Pozer]

Yeah, but the question is, how long have you run them? Took me a little less than a year, and the rear started acting up.

Good point. I've had them for a year and a half so they lasted through a whole season at N* and five trips there so far this year. I'm not the fastest guy around but I've ridden my DH bike quite a bit the past couple of years and so far the brakes have been incredibly reliable. Hopefully I didn't just jinx myself. If I did, I place the blame on you :angry:

 

[crashing_sux]

With a screwdriver or 2 hold the good pistons back while you pump the lever, this will break these pistons free. After that hold back any piston till you get them moving in perfect harmony You can do this with the wheel and pads in place, sometimes it helps to have someone else helping you.

I've tried that and had no luck. All of the pistons move, just not at the same rate. Seems like some are slower or weaker than the others.

 

[Hrelp]

The Capitol H in Hope stands for hype Haha just imagine if one of the pistons started acting funny irregularly good luck troubleshooting
Avid juicies on the other hand... .Now your looking at some serious stopping power with least amount of movingparts = less energy wasted / cost .

 

[chicodude]

madthumbs.com neaky:

that site was wrong......... neaky:

 

[crashing_sux]

Strange, it sure felt right to me...