Human extinction: Ethical question
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Why do you disagree??? Have you not noticed his unparalleled ability to express the lack of intelligence??? Who are you to argue with an authority on the matter???
It's real simple: "People are afraid of death".....D
Why do you disagree??? Have you not noticed his unparalleled ability to express the lack of intelligence??? Who are you to argue with an authority on the matter???
By the same logic why do we have medical science? what right do we have challenging nature's natural thinning-the-herd out tools with un-natural alchemy and sterialisation? back to cutting off a limb for a scrape for everyone!!!!
I think medicine is a different matter. Hell I'm a pharmacy tech and an EMT-B. To save one person at a time is admirable but if nature is so determined to kill us all maybe there's a reason. I mean an asteroid or volcano causing massive explosions and destroying our atmosphere for a long time seems pretty determined. Maybe these events exist as a foolproof way to do the job. If we evolve so fast that we get to the point where we beat nature to it's failsafe maybe that's not best for the planet or the human race.
Read this out loud and come back and tell us if you think you are as whacky as we do, once you actually hear it.
A bunch of goddam mumbo jumbo if you ask me. Maybe we should see what the witchdoctor thinks. 
hmm...many would say that you trying to save lives is actually disturbing the natural order of things...I think it's only a matter of time before DM gets owned..."Titanium is not natural"....lol
I'm pretty sure I am just as uninterested in what the witch doctor thinks. I typically read his posts and cry uncontrollably for hours. Combine his lackluster efforts at thought with his less than inspiring insults and you have a recipe for stupidity that only 5 or 6 folks here can challenge.
Now that I think of it, there has been a recent uprising of challengers, and that makes Baby Jesus cry.
haha i like ice cream too!
Shut up you blasphemer!!!
I think the mods should make it his custom title...lol
Until Jeremy R has a custom title, making him some sort of demi god of humor, I don't think the mods should be able to assign custom titles.
Feasible that he's whacky, right???
Hmm, should I invoke the Godwin's Law today?
nah.
nah.
Your distinctions are so totally arbitrary that it's hard to take it seriously, let alone the fact that a couple of you are assigning "Nature" some kind of high level intelligence. You're a pharmacy tech and an EMT but you have some kind of moral issue with plastic?
Natural events happen. There is no great figurehead out there that is thinking, "humans are too high adapted, we must kill them now." No man behind the curtain. There's a lot of space debris floating around out there, it's inevitable that we'll run into something somewhere along the line. There are a lot of bacteria and viruses kicking around, there will eventually be one that we have trouble killing. There's a lot of molten lava under our planet, at some point it's gonna go boom. It's not directed or deliberate.
What's funny to me is that you want to talk about Nature (legal note: Nature (tm) is a registered trademark of the Microsoft corporation and may not be used without its written consent) as if there's a great intelligence running the universe, but you don't want to bring up the concept of God.
A volcano or asteroid is meaningless at a cosmic scale.
Earth is special to us.
it was a joke. my real take. WHO cares? we'll die when we die. Like someone mentioned there is ice cream to be eaten.
Sorry, but you put a little too much thought into that response for it to be a joke.
Pants.
Natural selection is a bitch. If you choose to build a house on a flood plain, then don't be shocked when your house floats away. If you choose to live near (Or better yet ON) an active volcano, don't be screaming for help when it gets burned to the ground.
People are stupid. There are plenty of great ways to die, pick one and run with it.
People are stupid. There are plenty of great ways to die, pick one and run with it.
I've been saying that for years, but security always ends up escorting me out when I try to stand up for my beliefs
All of the above.
Well to his credit, titanium, the elemental metal, isn't naturally occuring, it has to be processed from TiO2 or FeTiO3 ores through some pretty sophisticated chemical processes....
That's the only book of his I haven't read - I'll be borrowing it once my friend is done.
No dead serious, just a joke. My little impersonation of "god fearing" people that think god will destroy us all if we don't change our ways.Sorry, but you put a little too much thought into that response for it to be a joke.
Really though, I think if there is one way we are all going to die at the same time, is if Britney Spears decides to sing another song.
Sorry. Not buyin' it.
This is the point I was making earlier about God. I am not really sure how anyone can justify saying that nature does something with any amount of agency and then restrict the conversation away from God. Not that we have to bring God into everything (even here; my comment was more an attack on your assertions, not an attempt to open up the conversation), but it seems to me that you already did by giving nature such a intentionality.
From a scientific viewpoint (as opposed to, say, a religious one that sees the supernatural on earth) nature doesn't "do" anything- it just is. Doing implies a kind of intentionality or free agency (to me, in any case) that nature does not have. Nature exists and affects things, but it doesn't act. That's, for some people, the beauty of it- why it cannot destroy itself and why some may see its results as justified by default when, by its operation, nature's results cannot be said to be good or bad as they stand outside of normative judgment. That's my opinion, in any case.
It occurred naturally before it was part of said ores though... Stardust...
I see David has wisely retreated from this thread...lol
Way Too Deep
on Earth then...
Im not going to read this entire thread, but my response to the initial question would be this:
Since "ethics" are nothing but a human invention (or idea really) what do they matter in a universe without humans? What is "ethical" if there's no one around to understand the decision. It's like the tree in the woods. A species has one ultimate goal. To survive. Simple as that.
Since "ethics" are nothing but a human invention (or idea really) what do they matter in a universe without humans? What is "ethical" if there's no one around to understand the decision. It's like the tree in the woods. A species has one ultimate goal. To survive. Simple as that.