[DLo]

I put the shock bolt at 6:00. We'll see how this goes. I definitely need a new seat though!

 

[Brian HCM#1]

I put the shock bolt at 6:00. We'll see how this goes. I definitely need a new seat though!

Heres a pic from the Avy site.

 

[SpeedyObnox]

Cool, well have to hook up and do some Auburn runs within the next month. Currently I'm forkless :evil:

wtf? is there riding in auburn? assload of stairs... trails?

unrelated, in those pics, did u case that first stair gap?

 

[DLo]

Heres a pic from the Avy site.

http://www.avalanchedownhillracing.com/discodhs.jpg

I believe that's what I had it first set up at. If I can some how lower my seat, then I'll probably put it closer to that setting.

 

[Brian HCM#1]

wtf? is there riding in auburn? assload of stairs... trails?

unrelated, in those pics, did u case that first stair gap?

Where are you from?

 

[Curb Hucker]

Currently I'm forkless :evil:

so am i im on a loaner Monster T a friend of mine is letting me use this weekend

 

[seismic]

Cool, well have to hook up and do some Auburn runs within the next month. Currently I'm forkless :evil:

Yes, - forkless.....but soon....

 

[Brian HCM#1]

Yes, - forkless.....but soon....

neaky: neaky: neaky:

 

[seismic]

Yes, - we are waiting.

 

[Brian HCM#1]

Yes, - we are waiting.

And waiting........................and waiting

 

[seismic]

It is going to be awesome :love: :dancing: :love:

 

[DLo]

You guys are right, that seat is such an eyesore... but it's also making me sore! The thing is pretty wide. I got bruises on the side of my thighs for some reason, I guess I been grippin it too tight. heheh

Brian, the seat hit my rear tire today when I did a drop, so I guess I'm going to look at some other options. Maybe I'll look for a small BMX seat, or try out the ones that were listed in the other thread I posted. But the bike is good! The clear plastic stuff I put on hasn't fallen off yet, and it has kept the cables from scuffing up the paint. Avy works well so far, I've been playing with the adjustments. Have the shock bolt set right at 6:00 for now. The wheelbase is loooooooooong.

Here are some shots from today (I'm the one in the TLD blue/yellow gear):

Soooo much stuff built up at Carlmont! I :love: the bike

 

[ZJChaser]

picture whore If we make the drive up next summer you gotta take us to some of these spots..that drop just looks smooth.

 

[Brian HCM#1]

Rotate it to like 3 o'clock to shorten the wheelbase, and yep figure out what you want to do for a seat, I have a cheapy WTB you can have if you want. Remember, you gotta measure the distance from the tire to the seat so it doesn't rub.

 

[dhtahoe]

How do you change wheelbase????????????????????????????????????????

 

[DLo]

How do you change wheelbase????????????????????????????????????????

What do ya mean? It seems like the rear end moves back so far when I lowered the BB.. it's just like if you take out the rear shock and collapse the linkage plates so it is almost like you bottom it. The thing stretches out pretty far! I noticed it too when I was putting the bike on the roof rack, the rear wheel stuck out further than the tray.

I'll mess with the settings some more Brian. This might just have to do for now, seat is still tall!

 

[ZJChaser]

correct me if I'm wrong but moving the shock doesn't effectively change the wheelbase it just moves the wheel to different parts of itsuspension path while at rest. it still will travel the same exact path no matter how the shock is mounted. it might seem like a different wheelbase at rest but when is your bike at rest without weight besides when your in the air. the only way to effectively change the wheel base would be changing the links or the location of the rear axle on the swingarm.

 

[seismic]

By changing the shock position on the links you increase/decrease the travel.....thats it !

 

[seismic]

Nice pics by the way !!!

 

[Brian HCM#1]

How do you change wheelbase????????????????????????????????????????

My bad, I was reading, thinking and typing at the same time, I ment for adjusting the BB heigth and saddle heigth.

 

[DLo]

The wheelbase don't change at all? I could swear the darn thing is longer....

 

[dhtahoe]

The bike is designed to sit in the sweet spot of the anti squat. If it's not in the right place it will either pedal like crap or brake like crap. It is not designed to have an adjustable wheel base. Adjustable HA, BB height, and travel is all you get. Using the axel path to change wheelbase is a no no. If you want to make it turn quicker drop the BB and the fork. Do the fork first... measure for min tire clearance. Then adj the BB so the lower link so it is about 1/4 inch-1/2 from the BB sitting static. Then adj your preload so the lower link sits at a 15-30 degree down angle from horizontal while sitting on the bike. My way of doing it is to put the bike in front of a mirror sit on it and look at the lower link. If the lower link is horizontal you need more preload. This should put the lower shock bolt at about 4 o'clock looking at the drive side.

 

[DLo]

Cool, thanks for the tips mike. I'll play around some more until I find what I like best.

 

[Brian HCM#1]

The bike is designed to sit in the sweet spot of the anti squat. If it's not in the right place it will either pedal like crap or brake like crap. It is not designed to have an adjustable wheel base. Adjustable HA, BB height, and travel is all you get. Using the axel path to change wheelbase is a no no. If you want to make it turn quicker drop the BB and the fork. Do the fork first... measure for min tire clearance. Then adj the BB so the lower link so it is about 1/4 inch-1/2 from the BB sitting static. Then adj your preload so the lower link sits at a 15-30 degree down angle from horizontal while sitting on the bike. My way of doing it is to put the bike in front of a mirror sit on it and look at the lower link. If the lower link is horizontal you need more preload. This should put the lower shock bolt at about 4 o'clock looking at the drive side.

You gotta remember its a shorter shock than a 02+ Disco, at that point the lower lonks will be way out. I've been told by Jan that there should be about 4mm between the bottom links and the BB, thats how I had it set in the first place. On a newer Disco that 4 o'clock puts the links in the same position as I set it at originally.

 

[Low_b]

You gotta remember its a shorter shock than a 02+ Disco, at that point the lower lonks will be way out. I've been told by Jan that there should be about 4mm between the bottom links and the BB, thats how I had it set in the first place. On a newer Disco that 4 o'clock puts the links in the same position as I set it at originally.

Honestly, Jan doesn't know how to set up these bikes.
He doesn't ride a disco and if you have ever checked out his Apoc, It's set up real funky.
Take Mikes advice!!!

 

[Brian HCM#1]

Honestly, Jan doesn't know how to set up these bikes.
He doesn't ride a disco and if you have ever checked out his Apoc, It's set up real funky.
Take Mikes advice!!!

I thought we were talking about BB heigth here.

 

[DLo]

I guess these frames aren't total pieces of crap. I wiped out on the new frame for the very first time last week, it rained and I decided to hit up Pacifica. Washed out close to the end of Boy Scout, and slammed the down tube into a tree. I've never heard a whack that loud before. But no scratches or dents.. *whew*

Aside from myself being sore, this was the other damage: http://www.msdhw.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2246&stc=1

Don't worry, everything's going to be ok
http://www.msdhw.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2245&stc=1

 

[ZJChaser]

so many places to go with that second picture but I'm not even going to start it

 

[DLo]

I finally threw on the stickers.. or rather, I had a friend do it since I'd put them on crooked. They didn't come out perfectly, but it's not bad. The one on the head tube is probably the furthest off. We didn't use the black background on one side Brian, since it was hard to match it up perfectly. But thank you once again for gettin them to me! Bike doesn't look naked now.

Now I just gotta ride the darn thing.. I'm thinkin rain or shine, I'll be in santa cruz tomorrow

 

[Brian HCM#1]

Looks good, the Karpiel downtube sticker is a little low, but not bad. I would have done those for yah if you wanted me too.

 

[seismic]

Where do I get new stickers for my Karpiel ??? Mine are in a pretty bad state,so I would love some, - but no idea where to get them !!!! ANy ideas ???

 

[Brian HCM#1]

Where do I get new stickers for my Karpiel ??? Mine are in a pretty bad state,so I would love some, - but no idea where to get them !!!! ANy ideas ???

I had the set made for him by the guy who made them for Jan.

 

[seismic]

So, - if I was very interested , would it be totally impossible to have a set made or....??? I think it could be super nice !

 

[Brian HCM#1]

So, - if I was very interested , would it be totally impossible to have a set made or....??? I think it could be super nice !

I could probably have them made for you, they are like $30 or $40 US for the complete set.

 

[seismic]

Sounds great !!! I would like that very much !!! But how can I pay ??You know...I live in Denmark, so what would be the easiest way do you think ?

 

[seismic]

If you get the possibility to have a sticker set for me I am 100% on !!!! Hope it is possible !

 

[Brian HCM#1]

Sounds great !!! I would like that very much !!! But how can I pay ??You know...I live in Denmark, so what would be the easiest way do you think ?

I'll have to call them first and see if they'll still do them for me. I don't think it will be a problem though. If we do it, we can do Paypal. I gotta find his # first.

 

[seismic]

SOunds awesome !! Just send me a PM or a mail when you know something !!
Thanks a lot Brain !!!!

 

[Brian HCM#1]

SOunds awesome !! Just send me a PM or a mail when you know something !!
Thanks a lot Brain !!!!

I just found the #, if they'll do I'll order them for you. Then send you a PM on the amount. It may take a week or two for me to get them.

 

[seismic]

Perfect !!!!!

thanks a lot !