I have never had an issue with 3M industrial velcro, other than the odd dog ear, and I live in the PNW and power wash my bike after every ride. As long as you round off those corners it'll stick!
Good job Dave those look ace!
I made some chainstay protectors.. comments?
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Good job Dave those look ace!
I agree, nothing wrong with tubes either, I've used them both. I just don't like how they look and wanted something a little nicer for my bikes. I've talked to enough people that felt the same way that I invested some of my time and $$ into it.
If they work to my liking and I end up selling them, then my plan is to make them very affordable, and donate all proceeds to a charity or advocacy group. If you guys have any ideas on a worthy group I am all ears.
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Ok, I will say it - I saw these down in Australia 30 years ago.
As always Dave, well done and I hope it provides incentive for others to offer custom fitted stay protectors.
Ok, I will say it - I saw these down in Australia 30 years ago.
As always Dave, well done and I hope it provides incentive for others to offer custom fitted stay protectors.
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Nice detail to come with DW bikes.
If i were to be a loyal dw customer id be very pleased
Now go and make a set for my v10
If i were to be a loyal dw customer id be very pleased
Now go and make a set for my v10
I think they look sweet. I have always used tube cause its free and dont trust anything more expensive to last longer. If these work then sweet and they do look way nicer than tube.
If you are serious about charity I have been looking into the different bicycle charities. Bicycle donation type charities are making a huge difference to peoples lives. There was a documentary recently about bicycles being donated to school girls in Zimbabwe and the improvement in those girls lives was insane - including the reduction in rape, amazing.
If you are serious about charity I have been looking into the different bicycle charities. Bicycle donation type charities are making a huge difference to peoples lives. There was a documentary recently about bicycles being donated to school girls in Zimbabwe and the improvement in those girls lives was insane - including the reduction in rape, amazing.
Mine (and yours from the looks of that pic) are getting pretty beat up. Right by that big weld seems to get smacked, not necessarily just the vertical beam itself. Not that big of a deal but it seems there are enough flat surfaces in there that coming up with a template wouldn't be that hard.
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They look good.
I also do the "housing inside tube" thing, only that my shifter cable goes under the bottom bracket and over the chainstay a la Sam Hill.
Here is an old pic
I also do the "housing inside tube" thing, only that my shifter cable goes under the bottom bracket and over the chainstay a la Sam Hill.
Here is an old pic
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Admittedly I was strapped for time and crass was the best creative adjective that I could come up with the describe what I was perceiving, but perhaps I am being too strong with my wording? If you would like to suggest a better syntax, Terry, I would appreciate it. Today was not a Thesaurus day.
Davehah I remember that and I remember thinking, damn those must weigh as much as the bike! lol
Yeah if I had more skills I would do some kind of enamel job in there but hey, it's the best I could do. I can't believe it's lasted almost a year!
Yeah, agreed.. Pretty good for prototype #1, this thing has about 250 runs on it so I feel pretty good about it's overall shape.
hah, the caps weren't done when I got the bike and DT asked me to just run them without caps and see how long they last. Still on the original bearings from 7-6-10, almost a year and I've done literally no maintenance on purpose. Still tight and good!
Damn that bradflyn guy is amazing!^^
Ok, I will say it - I saw these down in Australia 30 years ago.
As always Dave, well done and I hope it provides incentive for others to offer custom fitted stay protectors.
Rhubarb,
you wouldn't happen to remember the name of the documentary would you? I've always been curious to know the real effect of those bicycle charities.
If I remember correctly it was on BBC news, maybe a search would bring it up. I have been meaning to look into Hans Rey's organisation cause he does alot from what I have read. I am just getting more interested in this as I would like to do something myself and since bikes are my passion it would be perfect. Leaving Cape Town I saw some organisation had a short article getting township kids onto BMXs and training them up, going to look more into this when I get back next month.
The "The" chainstay protectors that you made for the Sundays were pretty awful, didn't stick and didn't actually cover all the points the chain hit the stays.. I wouldn't be interested in these anyway (if nothing else, I absolutely hate pointless logos all over my bikes), but DW do yourself a favour and make them to cover more area than just where you "think" the chain will slap because in certain circumstances it'll hit more than your guestimates. You haven't even covered the chainstay from being hit from underneath
Hello Mr DW, I like the look of these chainstay protectors. I am just wondering how well would they work on the 2008 DHR swingarm?
I am currently using Sikaflex after seeing it on Fabien Barels bike, it works quite well at keeping the noise down, it's a little bit tricky to apply but the only problem I have had with it is the way it looks, it's not the most attractive solution. So if these could fit the 2008 DHR then I would most certainly get some.
thanks.
I am currently using Sikaflex after seeing it on Fabien Barels bike, it works quite well at keeping the noise down, it's a little bit tricky to apply but the only problem I have had with it is the way it looks, it's not the most attractive solution. So if these could fit the 2008 DHR then I would most certainly get some.
thanks.
Thank you miss!
I spend my days putting on airs of refinement and delicacy in the pretentious and ostentatious halls of a boutique investment bank; Forums are somewhere I enjoy hanging up that hat and playing with the guys and gals. I don't get lewd or attack people (that arent on the attack themselves, and then I still retain some degree of respect, deserved or not). I do instigate quite a bit, and I enjoy it!
I would like something like that, clean and focussed (no wrap and coverage where it isn't needed) I would definitely be interested. Maybe I can fashion a version for my own bike.
Nice design! I tend to be a big DW supporter; dont make me tear down my shrine! (The kool-aid IS delicious.)
So there, nanny nanny boo boo.
[Although the response is actually what I asked for, now isn't it?]
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It was so much incentive, Santa Cruz, Specialized, Cannondale, Trek, Devinci and I'm sure others all had to go back in time and and release theirs before Weagle 'invented' his^^
Ok, I will say it - I saw these down in Australia 30 years ago.
As always Dave, well done and I hope it provides incentive for others to offer custom fitted stay protectors.
Don't for a second think that I view these things as any kind of "innovation". No "inventing" going on here at all. Anyone could make one, the only difference is that I actually did make some. They are literally a THE chainstay protector, the same kind that we made thousands of from 2005-2008 on Sundays, and that Toby has made thousands and thousands more starting in the 90's probably. I view it as a better looking replacement for a crappy piece of tape or tube, and I really don't like velcro'd on protectors personally.
I am really not sure how they would fit, I bet that they would, but I have not tried so I can't say for certain. You could try the THE version. It is a little smaller but they are pretty much universal as well.
I agree that the tape on the Sunday ones was terrible. I think that Toby and crew have addressed this now, I am testing and that is a focus for sure. The Sunday ones were pretty massive though, they covered the entire top and sides of the chainstay, I don't think I could have made it bigger! Agreed on the lower part of the stay and now that both you and Huck have brought it up I am looking at it. If I still get some additional slap during testing, I'll make it bigger.
All the best,
Dave
I'll look into that one for sure. I was also thinking about IMBA and NEMBA as well.
what's wrong with
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cheaper, lighter, cleaner
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cheaper, lighter, cleaner
Is that velcro? If it is, then nothing at all. If that is what you like then go for it! I just wanted a solution for my personal bikes that is a little more refined and trick looking than anything I could find at the local hardware store. There is nothing new or revolutionary about what I've made here really.. That was never the intention.what's wrong with
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cheaper, lighter, cleaner
Did you see the clear PVC tube that I use on my RD housing? Obviously I appreciate "home depot engineering"!
can anyone post bigger image closeups of sunday's solution aka hill? as tacubayas image?
If I see right, that protector is used at bottom of chainstay and pvc tube is laid above?!
DW, I look forward to a new protector to my sunday frame
how about a rear fender (mudguard)? I asked one guy who used to make carbon fender to sunday but he stopped 
If I see right, that protector is used at bottom of chainstay and pvc tube is laid above?!
DW, I look forward to a new protector to my sunday frame
how about a rear fender (mudguard)? I asked one guy who used to make carbon fender to sunday but he stopped The ones that we made for the Sunday and used by the Monster Iron Horse team / came stock with the bikes were pretty similar to what I am doing here, but with a few key differences. Chock that up to me learning from my mistakes. Here is what has changed:can anyone post bigger image closeups of sunday's solution aka hill? as tacubayas image?
If I see right, that protector is used at bottom of chainstay and pvc tube is laid above?!
DW, I look forward to a new protector to my sunday frame
- On the Sunday the protector used a lot more rubber. This made it a lot stiffer and that worked against the adhesive. The protector was acting like a spring so it was always trying to peel itself off.
- The Sunday one had a plastic tube for the derailleur cable that ran between the protector and the CS. People ran them both ways, with the tube over or under the protector. Either was acceptable.
- The adhesive on the Sunday one was a film adhesive and wasn't nearly as strong as the impregnated version that we are using on these new versions.
I had always planned on making a fender for the Sunday, I designed mounts into the frame and everything, I just never got to it when I started having to act as an unpaid QC and manufacturing control specialist.
You got any that say "FSR" on them?
Dahhhh, Duct tape!
Somebody make a padded sleeve, adhesive backed....and heatshrink. Wrap the chainstay in it, hit it with the heat gun...and it shrinks to the chainstay.
I remember my motocross bike had it all figured out in 1985. Riveted on plastic glide plates. It was just part of the swingarm.
FYI, the rant I was refering to in emails to DT was asking him to be the first that just built in protection for the swingarm. I've always never understodd why a $2500-$5000 bike would just leave these immaculate pieces of machined metal exposed and unprotected.
No other industry just says "By the way. The chain will eat away at the metal unless you, the buyer, do something about it." Honestly...name one other industry that would do that.
I remember my motocross bike had it all figured out in 1985. Riveted on plastic glide plates. It was just part of the swingarm.
FYI, the rant I was refering to in emails to DT was asking him to be the first that just built in protection for the swingarm. I've always never understodd why a $2500-$5000 bike would just leave these immaculate pieces of machined metal exposed and unprotected.
No other industry just says "By the way. The chain will eat away at the metal unless you, the buyer, do something about it." Honestly...name one other industry that would do that.
they still kinda do
Looking good Dave! Didn't see this thread until now - kind of ironic as I was just cutting up strips of velcro to slap on the new Phoenix this afternoon. Glad people are pumped on them.
