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IH Sunday w/mar. 66

rm raider

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Feb 16, 2006
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Wondering how the bike would be if there was an 6" Mar. 66 . Bike would be used for freeriding, jumps, racing,and some big drops.
Any info would be great.
 

Mordax

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Sep 13, 2003
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um, i cant help you on this question, but it seems like you could have combined your two threads into a "IH Sunday w/ mar. 66 or single crown" thread...just a thought
 
wow, that sounds craptaculer......if your looking for a do everything bike, I don't think "Sunday" should be your first choice. and a sunday witha 6'' sc would have a bb height of like 12''. its a great bike, i really like it, but using it as mostly a freerider/huck/trail bike is totaly overkill, and a waist of a wonderful full on DH frame.
 

OGRipper

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Feb 3, 2004
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wingman24 said:
and a sunday witha 6'' sc would have a bb height of like 12''.
By that he means low...very low. Sundays have low BB's anyway and that's great in many ways but using a shorter single crown would lower it further.
 

dw

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rm raider said:
Wondering how the bike would be if there was an 6" Mar. 66 . Bike would be used for freeriding, jumps, racing,and some big drops.
Any info would be great.
That would not be too good. The BB would be super low. Head angle would be around 67.5 or so.

I wouldn't do it.

Dave
 

MOTODH

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not the right frame for the job, race geo and suspension, check out the 7 point if you want IH
 

CBJ

year old fart
Mar 19, 2002
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If you want single crown there is the new single crown Travis which you can even get in the 200mm which I would think would even be too tall.
 

OGRipper

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It would be helpful to specify which year 66 you are talking about since they changed considerably for this year. An '05 will be taller and have less of an effect.
 

toothless

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Dec 8, 2002
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I've been running an 06 66rc2x on my Sunday for a month or so and I've got to say I'm digging the ride. I wouldn't go for the 6 inch 66 though. I've got a 13.0" bb height right now, which actually feels pretty good, but I wouldn't want to ride any serious rock gardens or anything.
 

rm raider

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Feb 16, 2006
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Thanks for all the info. Just needed to know what you guys thought about it. I would not do that.

Sorry about the double post, was trying to correct.
 

dw

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wingman24 said:
wow, conflicting answers in two treads that are basicly the same question, concerning a bike you designed, do you do your own marketing?:p
the Breakout + has the same AC as a 7 inch boxxer, so it gives a pretty decent head angle at 66 degrees and a 13.75 BB height. Not too bad at all. The 6 inch fork though, thats too much in my opinion..

To each his own though! :)
 

dw

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OGRipper said:
It would be helpful to specify which year 66 you are talking about since they changed considerably for this year. An '05 will be taller and have less of an effect.
Yeah, definitely, I am assuming that we are talking about the 6" model here? 535mm and lower AC height on the 6".

On the 05 7" version, the AC height was 555mm. That is similar to the Sherman breakout + and it wouldl ride fine in my opinion. You would have a 66 head angle and 13.75 BB height.

Hope this helps some!

Dave
 

Jm_

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dw said:
Yeah, definitely, I am assuming that we are talking about the 6" model here? 535mm and lower AC height on the 6".

On the 05 7" version, the AC height was 555mm. That is similar to the Sherman breakout + and it wouldl ride fine in my opinion. You would have a 66 head angle and 13.75 BB height.

Hope this helps some!

Dave
You can't buy the 6" 06 model. You have to buy the 06 66 SL if you want a 6" 66. Otherwise, they're all 170mm aftermarket.
 

Jm_

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Nope, that's not correct because it's including the OEM and aftermarket forks.

You can't buy a 150mm version. I tried already.
 

Salami

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dw said:
Yeah, definitely, I am assuming that we are talking about the 6" model here? 535mm and lower AC height on the 6".

On the 05 7" version, the AC height was 555mm. That is similar to the Sherman breakout + and it wouldl ride fine in my opinion. You would have a 66 head angle and 13.75 BB height.

Hope this helps some!

Dave
:confused: These numbers seems wrong. Are they for the 2005 66? The look like the numbers for the 2006.

Marz's site says 575mm for the 150mm and 595mm for the 170mm.
 

Jm_

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CBJ said:
But can't you lower it to 170mm - just remember reading something like that?
No. That was the older 05 66. The new RC2 cartridge won't let you do that anymore.
 

Jm_

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dante said:
blame US importers then, you can get it in the UK...

here
I don't trust that site. It looks like a cut-n-paste from the marzocchi description. Once someone has one that they bought aftermarket, I'd believe it.

Marzocchi IS making the forks, but at least here, we can't get them.
 

dante

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Jm_ said:
I don't trust that site. It looks like a cut-n-paste from the marzocchi description. Once someone has one that they bought aftermarket, I'd believe it.

Marzocchi IS making the forks, but at least here, we can't get them.
never understood the whole thing about distributors not bringing in certain models. just look at Maxxis last year with their SRY tires...

www.wiggle.co.uk also claims to have the 150mm ones in stock. looks like its just a US thing.
 

dw

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holy thread derailment

Lets keep this simple.

Sunday with Fork AC height 550 to 580 = GOOD
Sunday with Fork AC height 540 and lower = NOT AS GOOD (in my opinion at least)

Dave
 
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Ok.. Since this train has already jumped off the tracks...

Every distributor chooses models they feel are best suited to their particular market.

New RC2x models can have the travel changed by changing cartridges.

Brian
 

MOTODH

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wingman24 said:
when you change cartridges does it change the AC hieght? or just the amount of travel?

when you lower the travel you lower the A-C height the same respectable amount
 
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Jm_ said:
I don't trust that site. It looks like a cut-n-paste from the marzocchi description. Once someone has one that they bought aftermarket, I'd believe it.

Marzocchi IS making the forks, but at least here, we can't get them.
150mm and 170mm versions are both definetely available here in the UK, I have the distributors stock list in front of me right now:)
 

Killerbarbies

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The 66RC2X also comes in 150 travel in the USA - I bought a pair from Santa Cruz Bicycles and it came 150 - now I want to change it to 170 and according to the bumpf I got from Marzocchi tech support all that is necessary is to change the location of some spacers. The .pdf they sent to me is 800kb so its too big to load here as an attachment.