[pixelninja]

Holy Crap.....please please please tell me the name of that trail, or provide a link to more info. I need to ride it

Hall Ranch, just outside of Lyons, CO.

 

[Snacks]

Hall Ranch, just outside of Lyons, CO.

XC? I :love: rocks....all kinds. If I could I would marry them. Thanks

 

[pixelninja]

XC? I :love: rocks....all kinds. If I could I would marry them. Thanks

Yeah, XC. In all honesty, the entire ride isn't that rocky technical. Only the first 2 mile climb. After that its tight smooth singletrack. Awesome trail though. One of my favorites, but it tends to get really crowded.

 

[JRB]

dude, fell free to change your desktop background from me to somone or something else

Decent. I approve.

 

[pixelninja]

Got rocks?

mmmmm. Now that's a good lookin rocky trail...

 

[Velocity Girl]

Time ATAC have only one bad feature: the cleats wear out quickly.
ATAC's rule in mud, snow, sand and anything else you step in. Try some Speedplay x/1 pedals for the road bike and Time ATAC for the mtb. You will not be disappointed. No rock whack jobs with these pedals!

Interesting...how long are talking about when you say "quickly". One pair I had on my shoes lasted at least 2 seasons (using the same shoes for both dh and xc)

 

[Transcend]

mmmmm. Now that's a good lookin rocky trail...

That's the old National / World Cup race course at bromont. You hit that section going as fast as possible. It will make your eye balls bounce pretty good.

If you have ever heard anyone talk about the last world cup there, that is the entrance to "the jungle".

Super fun course, the entire top section of the run is like that.

 

[syadasti]

Interesting...how long are talking about when you say "quickly". One pair I had on my shoes lasted at least 2 seasons (using the same shoes for both dh and xc)

I think that can occur with any cleat, it depends on the rider.

People have varying riding styles, ergonomics, etc...

I can get lots of miles from the ****ty old CB cleats even.

 

[mxer338]

im not sure if its my shoes causing the problem, i am using xc shoes, and with a sub 13 inch bb its hard not to hit a rock every once and a while. however, my friend has a set of mallet m's (i have the c's) and they release seems to be much harder/stiffer than mine?

could the traction plates change how stiff the spring feels?

 

[syadasti]

im not sure if its my shoes causing the problem

This is another weakness of CBs - shoe inference causes poor performance. Did you read the instructions when you installed your cleats - ie using spacers? Sometimes you also have to shave your shoe tread.

I never had a shoe issue when I use to use Time's.

 

[mxer338]

my shoes seem to have no interference, im using one wafer under the cleats and i have no problem clipping in and out when i want to, but they seem to pop off at inoportune moments. i still dont know why the spring tension isnt as high as another set of the same pedals

 

[jdcamb]

Thats the XE - best bang for the buck. Old ATAC have the inferior old style mechanism.

How is it inferior?

 

[def]

I'm skipping over the fill in the middle and answering the question.


-I rode times for roughly 5 years and then switched to egg beaters a season or 2 ago after the bars on the ATAC wore down. The feel of the pedal is almost the same. Float = same, entry = same, release = same, mud/snow/poop clearance = same. The only differences are you can come up short on clipping in w/ eggs and 'roll' your foot foreward to get in where times you have to take your foot off and reposition w/ the ATAC. That and the crank bros design can cause you to come out when you smack the bottom. So.....my opinion and recomendation. If you smack your pedals a lot, go times. If you don't, go egg beaters. If you liked everything about how the pedals felt but didn't like popping out every now and again, you should like the times.

 

[OGRipper]

I've been running shimanos since they first came out with the 737's way back when. I've had great luck with them over the years - consistent performance, rarely damage them, and on the rare occasion they get jammed with mud, they are easy to clear by clipping in and out a couple times. You can get different cleats with different amounts of float. The bearings last forever and the spring tension is adjustable.

I have like 7 pair, including on my road bike and fixie, so I am not going to change unless there is a compelling reason. I've tried Time and CB and so far have not found that reason.

 

[Transcend]

im not sure if its my shoes causing the problem, i am using xc shoes, and with a sub 13 inch bb its hard not to hit a rock every once and a while. however, my friend has a set of mallet m's (i have the c's) and they release seems to be much harder/stiffer than mine?

could the traction plates change how stiff the spring feels?

Your shoe tread could be too high, you may need to trim it/use spacers. Your cleats could also be worn, they wear out fast so that the retention bars don't. Finally, you have 2 float settings, depending which clear you put on which shoe (one has a dot). I believe it is 8 and 12 degrees.

Also about the shoe interference being a CB problem, not true. I have had issues with almost every shoe, on every pairs of pedals (Cb, Time, Shimano). I ALWAYS grind down my show a bit and use spacers as well if possible.

Oh and a 13" BB is retarded low, wow. Even 165s aren't gonna save you much there. Personally I found eggbeaters just too small. They hurt my feet using shimano shoes. It may also be that you can ding the pedal pretty much anywhere to cause a release. Candy and Mallet protect the mech a little bit more?

 

[Wumpus]

Crank Brothers

One cleat has two small dots in the center between the bolt holes, and the other cleat does not. If you put the cleat with two dots on it on your right shoe, then both feet release outwards at a 15 degree angle and if you put the one with the two little dots on your left shoe, then both feet release outwards at about 20 degrees. First-time users should start with the 15 degree release angle. Crank Brothers pedals have 6 degrees of rotational float.

Time (Two different cleats?)

Replacement cleats for Time ATAC pedals. 15 or 20 degrees of angle release to prevent accidental release and 5 degrees of rotation.

OR

ATAC 13/17 cleat offers the choice of 13° or 17° release angles for easier release

SPD

The standard off road cleat that fits most Shimano MTB pedals. Does not work with pedal model PD-M858 pedal. 82 grams. Specify Model: (SH-51) black, 4 degrees float or (SH-55) silver, 4 degrees float with multi directional release.

 

[manhattanprjkt83]

Crank Brothers Man...

Time is over...

 

[Bicyclist]

That's why I won't ride CB. The spring acts so that when you hit it on a rock the other side opens up. I'm on Shimanos and happy except for mud shedding. I want to try Times now, they look really nice.