Intense Socom, available yet? Price?
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It's scheduled to be available for a mid-August launch with the "works" finish(raw) being the first ones available, in medium sizes first. The price is yet to be determined, and supposed to be somewhere in between the Uzzi and M3 price range. Available with the same shocks as the M3-DHX, Swinger, or Revox. Taking pre-orders now...
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Yup...Although it seems like it would sorta compete against the M3...I mean, it *sounds* basically like a light weight M3...
Yup...Although it seems like it would sorta compete against the M3...I mean, it *sounds* basically like a light weight M3...
MBA says its 8 pounds......
While I see your point, I guess you could say that some people might really want that extra travel with the M3....ahem Edddd Buchan. :love:jackalope said:
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Pffft...I'm really only asking out of curiosity...I mean, if a bike doesn't have at least 10" of travel, then it's just a heavy trail bike...Hell, I'm hoping SC finally steps up to the plate and makes a V-12...Ya know, something with 303 mm of travel...
See, eventually, I'll have enough travel to counter my ever dwindling bike handling skills...Soon I'll be the biggest DH hack ever, but it won't matter as I monster truck over everything...And course marking tape is for puzzies...
Pffft...I'm really only asking out of curiosity...I mean, if a bike doesn't have at least 10" of travel, then it's just a heavy trail bike...Hell, I'm hoping SC finally steps up to the plate and makes a V-12...Ya know, something with 303 mm of travel...
See, eventually, I'll have enough travel to counter my ever dwindling bike handling skills...Soon I'll be the biggest DH hack ever, but it won't matter as I monster truck over everything...And course marking tape is for puzzies...
Except it has less travel, is front derailleur compatible, and offers more seat height adjustment :love:jackalope said:
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Word...However, I think the difference between 8.5" and 9.5" of travel is relatively minor in the world of DH bikes...I mean, a lot of full on DH bikes have 8.5" of travel, no?
However, the front gorilla option is pretty nice...But not so sure about the adjustable seat height position...Doesn't the M3 have a super slack seat tube angle? If it's like my V-10, then you can adjust it all you want and it's still going to be a boo awful pedaling position...But if it's got a steeper seat tube, than disregard my point...Actually, who I am kidding? You'll disregard it no matter what :love:
Btw, either one of you guys have a 2.5 DH tyre I can borrow for BC? I need something in the back that's more like a Maxxis "2.5" than say a Kenda "2.5"...Really don't want to take off the Minion on my 10...
Word...However, I think the difference between 8.5" and 9.5" of travel is relatively minor in the world of DH bikes...I mean, a lot of full on DH bikes have 8.5" of travel, no?
However, the front gorilla option is pretty nice...But not so sure about the adjustable seat height position...Doesn't the M3 have a super slack seat tube angle? If it's like my V-10, then you can adjust it all you want and it's still going to be a boo awful pedaling position...But if it's got a steeper seat tube, than disregard my point...Actually, who I am kidding? You'll disregard it no matter what :love:
Btw, either one of you guys have a 2.5 DH tyre I can borrow for BC? I need something in the back that's more like a Maxxis "2.5" than say a Kenda "2.5"...Really don't want to take off the Minion on my 10...
Hey Jackalope:
"Team SpeeDH - Thanks to Azonic, Magura, Oury, Kenda, and Sun."
Notice the KENDA part?
"Team SpeeDH - Thanks to Azonic, Magura, Oury, Kenda, and Sun."
Notice the KENDA part?
Umm...
Ahh, reading comprehension...Such a lost art
Actually tho, we're no longer working with Kenda, so I'm SOL with them...Need to change my sig I s'pose...
Ahh, reading comprehension...Such a lost art
Actually tho, we're no longer working with Kenda, so I'm SOL with them...Need to change my sig I s'pose...
Mountain Bike Fiction? I don't think they've ever published an accurate frame weight...Cant Climb said:
MBA weights are from cali, which follows the logic of "yeah, of course they're real. If they're attached to my chest, then they're real."
Take MBA weights, and multiply by 1.2 I'd say.
Take MBA weights, and multiply by 1.2 I'd say.
It's a pound lighter than the Uzzi...
And hopefully nowhere near as clapped out... 
This has got to be one of the worst trans-mtb-forum-in-joke-thread-hijackings of all time...
Intergalactic junk pile.jackalope said:And hopefully nowhere near as clapped out...
INTENSE KEEPS THE LOVE COMING
Tuesday, June 13, 2006
R. Cunningham
Jeff Steber, Intense Cycles founder sent MBA a peep show of his latest creationa lightweight downhill chassis called the Socom FRO. (FRO means for racing only) The frame and shock weigh 8 pounds, and it uses the Virtual Pivot Point suspension that now graces all Intense dual-suspension bikes. The prototype is outfitted with light-for-gravity-duty Easton wheels and a Manitou Revox shocks with a titanium spring. The fork is a dual-crown Travis, which needs no introduction. Rear wheel travel is posted at 8.5 inches.
The Socom Fro has been on the drawing boards at Intense for quite some timein one form or anotherand is the logical next step. Santa Cruz has secretly been outfitting its team with lighter versions of the V-10and they are not alone. But there are other reasons for a more pedal-friendly gravity machine. Downhill racing opportunities are shrinking while resort parks are tailoring their slopes with man-made stunts and extreme natural-terrain trails to cater to freeriders and long-travel recreationists. The Socal FRO should be a weapon of choice for sponsored pros who need a faster-accelerating race bike, but we figure that most of them will end up under well-monied gravity junkies who shred for fun and may race on the occasional weekend. A bike like this promises to be way too much fun to carry a racing only sticker.
Tuesday, June 13, 2006
R. Cunningham
Jeff Steber, Intense Cycles founder sent MBA a peep show of his latest creationa lightweight downhill chassis called the Socom FRO. (FRO means for racing only) The frame and shock weigh 8 pounds, and it uses the Virtual Pivot Point suspension that now graces all Intense dual-suspension bikes. The prototype is outfitted with light-for-gravity-duty Easton wheels and a Manitou Revox shocks with a titanium spring. The fork is a dual-crown Travis, which needs no introduction. Rear wheel travel is posted at 8.5 inches.
The Socom Fro has been on the drawing boards at Intense for quite some timein one form or anotherand is the logical next step. Santa Cruz has secretly been outfitting its team with lighter versions of the V-10and they are not alone. But there are other reasons for a more pedal-friendly gravity machine. Downhill racing opportunities are shrinking while resort parks are tailoring their slopes with man-made stunts and extreme natural-terrain trails to cater to freeriders and long-travel recreationists. The Socal FRO should be a weapon of choice for sponsored pros who need a faster-accelerating race bike, but we figure that most of them will end up under well-monied gravity junkies who shred for fun and may race on the occasional weekend. A bike like this promises to be way too much fun to carry a racing only sticker.
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Thanks for the article...That thar is a sweet looking rig...
On a sidenote, didn't realize SC was making lightweight V-10s...Bastages...
I'm not going to be happy until I have a 36lb V-10 like Montashu...
Thanks for the article...That thar is a sweet looking rig...
On a sidenote, didn't realize SC was making lightweight V-10s...Bastages...
I'm not going to be happy until I have a 36lb V-10 like Montashu...
I have a more general question for everyone here:
Do you think this breed of bike (simple more traditional tubing, super light, DH geometry and travel) as more desirable or potential more popular than the heavier and fancier-looking DH rigs we see today? (v10, demo, sunday, and others with lots of CNC and interrupted seat tubes) By nature of simply being lighter and more versatile, yet still racing as well, I could see this bike being extremely sought-after by riders unable to find frames that are 'right' for what they like to do.
Do you think this breed of bike (simple more traditional tubing, super light, DH geometry and travel) as more desirable or potential more popular than the heavier and fancier-looking DH rigs we see today? (v10, demo, sunday, and others with lots of CNC and interrupted seat tubes) By nature of simply being lighter and more versatile, yet still racing as well, I could see this bike being extremely sought-after by riders unable to find frames that are 'right' for what they like to do.
The socom kinda represents the quandry DH racing is in right now. Fewer proper lift accessed venues. More pedally, small hill courses are (Fontana, Firestone, Sonoma, Sea Otter)
It also represents some of the needs the average Joe DH'r is facing choosing a bike for the local terrain, which may not be as gnar as what the big bikes are designed for. They want the DH geometry, but with less travel/weight. Previously the only choice was a shorter travel freerider that didn't have the geo you wanted.
This is a type of bike thats going to flourish, its versatile and fits the bill for lot of people in a lot of places. I don't think it will supplant more traditional big bikes though, since there are places that warrant the big guns.
It also represents some of the needs the average Joe DH'r is facing choosing a bike for the local terrain, which may not be as gnar as what the big bikes are designed for. They want the DH geometry, but with less travel/weight. Previously the only choice was a shorter travel freerider that didn't have the geo you wanted.
This is a type of bike thats going to flourish, its versatile and fits the bill for lot of people in a lot of places. I don't think it will supplant more traditional big bikes though, since there are places that warrant the big guns.
I wonder how the Demo 7 will compare? Or is it going to be more of a FR/trail rig?
Really cool bike for someone like myself who needs a light bike,
For each rider i know looking for a light DH bike i know 3 who have just broken their DH bike and can't afford to fix it.
For each rider i know looking for a light DH bike i know 3 who have just broken their DH bike and can't afford to fix it.
I agree 100%.Zark said:
I agree also. I am equal distance between Sea Otter and Cougar Mountain and these types of bikes are the ticket. I don't race anymore and sold my big DH bike, these these new smaller, lighter bikes (Socom, Demo7) are what will get me back into it. Easier to take on the local dh-type trails as well.Dogboy said:
Hey - just wondering - since Intense and Santa Cruz share a lot of design specs and technology - isn't the SOCOM Intense Cycles iteration of the Santa Cruz Nomad???
The 6.6 is the equivalent of the Nomad.S.K.C. said:
BAM! Truth, right in the forehead.leprechaun said:
Guys are gonna go out and buy this thing in the hopes that its gonna be the key to thier racing careers, and its gonna break. THen where are ya?
Look at Sanjay. I could stick that guy on a goddam 9 wheeled, 4 gearbox iron backwards bike, and he'd stick rock the **** out of it and be fast.
really tell me the light frame that just brakes up unless it was a serious crash?, the orange 223,224 is lighter than anything out there and still will be for time, and if they keep going the way they are theres gonna be another pound shaved off the bike this year as well and will be stronger than the 222 or 223.
as they make these bikes lighter and lighter they have to find a way to make them stronger or theres no point.
thats like saying we could make a jet plane out of paper mache that would be the most manoverable and fastest out there but would exploed and set on fire if it hit an bird.
and anyway who dosen't like riding a bike thats light flickable and easy to pedal and wont break down, you ride a commencal for that exact reason dont you?
as they make these bikes lighter and lighter they have to find a way to make them stronger or theres no point.
thats like saying we could make a jet plane out of paper mache that would be the most manoverable and fastest out there but would exploed and set on fire if it hit an bird.
and anyway who dosen't like riding a bike thats light flickable and easy to pedal and wont break down, you ride a commencal for that exact reason dont you?
Lets take a bike right out off Intense's history sheet for that one. THe lighter the M1 got, the more it broke. SNapped stays, headtubes, blah blah balh.
Its jsut kinda scary thinking about people buying into the hype, and getting totalled when the bike doesn't stand up to the abuse.
Its jsut kinda scary thinking about people buying into the hype, and getting totalled when the bike doesn't stand up to the abuse.
If it really is 8 pounds with shock then thats crazy. If that is true it has to be a dainty little thing. I know I would not feel comfortable on a frame that light. The tubing must be very thin and 8 pounds is far too light for an 8.5 inch travel frame with a coil shock. I guess calling it "FRO" is correct but even then, it still seems too light for a race only bike.
I can also see this frame getting broken by riders who aren't as smooth as than they think they are... and will then go bitching to Intense... :mumble:
"FRO" might also translate to "Sold Without Warranty"
In my case, I'm too slow to break stuff... Which is why I can still get away with DH riding on a '98 Lawwill DH-6... If it really is 8 lbs... then I might be interested... I'm also looking at the Nomad...
"FRO" might also translate to "Sold Without Warranty"
In my case, I'm too slow to break stuff... Which is why I can still get away with DH riding on a '98 Lawwill DH-6... If it really is 8 lbs... then I might be interested... I'm also looking at the Nomad...
I have to agree with Jeff on this one, Intense doesn't exactly have a great track record on this stuff.dropmachine.com said:
julian_dh said:
and from the photo, it looks like its target is the s.c. vpfree.
good lookin machine.
but then again so is the vpfree.
but neither is a true d.h. bike.
but that's what they'll be used for.
especially as more and more places are easing out(dumbing down) their trails to attract more riders.
This bike could suck a big one but Intense is still gonna sell em like hotcakes.
Why?
Because nowadays people like to ride big bikes period.
Days of slogging through singletrack with 3.0 tires and shivers is coming back to light bikes and well, this is what its gonna look like.
And just because it for "racing" will only make weekend warriors who don't race and also actual non hucker race types pine for this bike.
It ain't for me but i'm just saying...........
Why?
Because nowadays people like to ride big bikes period.
Days of slogging through singletrack with 3.0 tires and shivers is coming back to light bikes and well, this is what its gonna look like.
And just because it for "racing" will only make weekend warriors who don't race and also actual non hucker race types pine for this bike.
It ain't for me but i'm just saying...........