I dig the steak reference. I have nothing bad to say about IH. My SGS is still going strong. If I had some extra cash, I'd like to see how something new rides, but...damn track days.
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I must admit, I don't quite understand the steak analogy. Are you saying that when you buy (or bought in this case) an Iron Horse, you would need to buy five? I do however, understand what you're saying about the fancier restaurant, in that the fancier it is, the more your steak will cost. If you apply this to a bike, you're getting the same bike, but from a fancier shop (and there's definitely something to be said for superior customer service from certain fancier shops). But, a fancy shop is by no means a guarantee of a good bike; the same way that a fancy restaurant is in no way a guarantee of a good steak.I've explained it to some people akin to if you were to go to Costco to buy a steak. Sure, that steak costs 1/2 of what it would cost in a supermarket but, that's only when you buy 5X what you actually need for your own use. And, like said steak, the better the restaurant the steak is sold at, the higher the price. That's why at Peter Lugar's it'll run you $50 for the steak you buy at Costco for $5 or $10 at Stop N Shop or $20 at Outback or $30 at a better neighborhood restaurant.
-ska todd
I bet you didn't even get a free iPod, did you?Ok, maybe I went overboard in my steak reference. Maybe b/c it was dinner time and I was hungry. Basically, sure OEM prices are lower than distributor, dealer, or msrp but the prices aren't as crazy low as what some might assume. Same can be said for a lot of products. I shared a plane flight with an Apple PM once and he was drilling me about the cost of bike stuff. He was shocked at how low the margins were compared to iPod stuff he worked on. Different industries have different economies.
-ska todd
The last time my gf went to Costco she brought home bacon wrapped filetsNo free iPod but he charged mine on his MBP b/c my batter died and I didn't have the plug.
Steak wrapped in bacon perhaps? :beerjam:
-ska todd
hahahaha i was just about to write that myself!I was 'just grilling along' when suddenly....
Steak wrapped in bacon perhaps? :beerjam:
add a bit of cayenne pepper to the rub, leave off the butter and grill on a very hot flame for ~5 min/side. if it's a true 2" cut, you might have to bump that up to 5.5min. serve with a side of german fried potatoes and a nice glass of scotch. or you could just marinate it in BBQ sauce after stabbing it repeatedly with a fork...
2" thick dry aged bone-in prime rib-eye with some salt and pepper is all you need guy. Maybe a fat slab of french butter melted on top to lube your insides.
I just peed a little. That was funny.I was 'just grilling along' when suddenly....
Blasphemy!! Yes, it might be all you need but as we all know on RM: Bacon is king! If you don't like it then go to pinkbike or something but please do not defame the use of bacon. Bacon is a universal. Like duct tape, zip ties, or a bigger hammer it can fix anything!
that's not hard to understand at all. And it makes me understand the steak analogy too!It's not you who had to buy the 5 bikes/steaks it's the IH/Other bike company that had to bike 5 sets(actualy more but we can keep it at this to make it simple) of oem parts to make it cheaper. Buying large quantities of parts allows companies to get better prices for them therefore they can sell complete bikes at better prices. How is that hard to undestand? It works the same everywhere.
Fox? Rock Shox? Marzocchi? Manitou?and now I'm hungry. For a nice filet mignon I can cut with a fork...
I prefer a damn near red hot cast iron skillet for my 2" cuts. 5 min side one on high gas heat, flip over and into the 500+ degree oven for another 5.add a bit of cayenne pepper to the rub, leave off the butter and grill on a very hot flame for ~5 min/side. if it's a true 2" cut, you might have to bump that up to 5.5min.
must spread repFox? Rock Shox? Marzocchi? Manitou?
-ska todd
in this case it would have to be something cutting edge, something sharp and European... maybe something carbon like a DT Swiss?!Fox? Rock Shox? Marzocchi? Manitou?
-ska todd
you might have to use a bladed road fork.in this case it would have to be something cutting edge, something sharp and European... maybe something carbon like a DT Swiss?!
True, even bacon can't fix a Manitouin this case it would have to be something cutting edge, something sharp and European... maybe something carbon like a DT Swiss?!
No sillier than discussing internal business practices on MTBR.This started out as a very respectable conversation about mountain bikes, and its gotten very silly. Very silly indeed. All this talking about steaks and forks. Very silly.
On my cue, we will cut back to a very sensible conversation about bicycles, Iron Horse, and no more sillyness.
I bet very few people get this.
lol i got it. growing up with a father from Liverpool.. I was raised on that stuff... as well as black sabbathI have no idea what that refers to.
Mine was much funnier, if you're a Monty Python fan.
Dear Sirs at the BBC, I wish to register a complaint...
This started out as a very respectable conversation about mountain bikes, and its gotten very silly. Very silly indeed. All this talking about steaks and forks. Very silly.
On my cue, we will cut back to a very sensible conversation about bicycles, Iron Horse, and no more sillyness.
DIRECTOR........cut.
I bet very few people get this.
I like it runny.Its a bit runny
I too keep grilling outside for special occasions, like days ending in Y.I prefer a damn near red hot cast iron skillet for my 2" cuts. 5 min side one on high gas heat, flip over and into the 500+ degree oven for another 5.
I will grill a steak outdoors for a special occasion like cigar time.
One of the very few things I miss about California is that when I cooked, probably 75% of my meals were done on the grill, year round.I like it runny.
I too keep grilling outside for special occasions, like days ending in Y.
Our smoke detectors don't like the red-hot iron skillet thing. That method is only to be used when I'm too lazy to shovel out the grill as it leaves my entire house looking similar to my dorm room in college...
I like it runny.
Our smoke detectors don't like the red-hot iron skillet thing. That method is only to be used when I'm too lazy to shovel out the grill as it leaves my entire house looking similar to my dorm room in college...
Damn, someone from the other side of the pond understands Monty Python...
This started out as a very respectable conversation about mountain bikes, and its gotten very silly. Very silly indeed. All this talking about steaks and forks. Very silly.
On my cue, we will cut back to a very sensible conversation about bicycles, Iron Horse, and no more sillyness.
DIRECTOR........cut.
I bet very few people get this.