[NineFingers]

Well...

Looks like I'm going in for another surgery in Nov. to remove two M&M size stones in my left kidney. Had em two years ago, the removed em, then had em again last spring('03) and was refered to a specialist in Seattle, got em removed...Sure enough, all that blood I've been peeing is due to two more M&M's... This time I told the head of Urology at the UW medical center that I want to find out why I'm getting these lil buggers so I can correct the problem if possible.

Best part of it all is they are leaving the stent in with the string attached this time. So when they particles they demolish into sand grit passes through, I just go in and the doctor just yanks on the string and "pop" out comes the long tubing from my pee hole... Which I guess is better than going in and having them go up the pee hole with no pain medicine, fully alert with a claw and a camera to pull it out.

Let me just say to you all, drink at least a gallon of water aside from beer and juice a day because you don't want these %#*&ing things, they are not fun.

Ever had a knife in the back being twisted while someone kicks you in the nuts? Kind of feels like that when they are on the move!

I'm off my for now.

 

[NineFingers]

Oh yeah, sorry about the punctuation and spelling/grammar, mmmmmmmmm...pain pills.

 

[McT]

Damn dude. I've heard drinking alot of crap like soda and not enough water can do that...

I drink alot of propel... am i gonna get my own painful ass m&ms?

 

[NineFingers]

Here's a quote:
Kidney stones form when there is a high level of calcium (hypercalciuria), oxalate (hyperoxaluria), or uric acid (hyperuricosuria) in the urine; a lack of citrate in the urine; or insufficient water in the kidneys to dissolve waste products. The kidneys must maintain an adequate amount of water in the body to remove waste products. If dehydration occurs, high levels of substances that do not dissolve completely (e.g., calcium, oxalate, uric acid) may form crystals that slowly build up into kidney stones.

Urine normally contains chemicals— citrate, magnesium, pyrophosphate— that prevent the formation of crystals. Low levels of these inhibitors can contribute to the formation of kidney stones. Of these, citrate is thought to be the most important.


Drink lots of fluids fella's, lots of fluids!

 

[LordOpie]

Karma's a bitch, huh?

 

[NineFingers]

Here's a good link if your interested:
http://www.urologychannel.com/kidneystones/index.shtml

 

[NineFingers]

Karma's a bitch, huh?

How does this have anything to do with Karma? I lead a good life, you got serious issues Dopie. You seem to chime in on all my threads just because we've had a spat in the past. Grow up little boy, it's time to move on from your misc. slander that you post in my threads, as well as others. Is it your form of entertainment to act like a prick on the internet every night?

 

[McT]

About 4 seconds after I get done writing this, I'm getting up, walking to the kitchen, and drinking a whole lot of water.

 

[NineFingers]

About 4 seconds after I get done writing this, I'm getting up, walking to the kitchen, and drinking a whole lot of water.

Yeah, that's good McT! Take my word for it, it does not feel good when they are on the move, even if they are just shifting in the kidney, it radiates a pain that feels...well...like I stated above, a good knife-ing to the back and a swift kick to the nuts. If you've ever been hit in the nuts from a fall, a person, etc, just take that pain and add in a sharp pain to the lower back and that is what it feels like. Not to mention getting them removed. The surgery goes fine if you have a good surgery, however when they remove the stent that they place in your tubes from your anatomy all the way up thru the bladder up into the kidney, it's all done with no drugs, just drop the droors and hang on to the table because theres two ways of doing it. If they leave the string attached, they grab the string and pull until the stent is out, if they don't leave the string attached, they go up with a hollowed out metal like tube to where they send two tools up through the pee hole inside of the tube they just stuck up there, one is a claw like device and the other is a mini camera. It's kind of a cool exprience to see the inside of your tubing on the monitor above but it feels very very weird and when it's all done there's no drugs that wear off, just a feeling of violation!

WATER IS OUR FRIEND, I think I'm going to get a tatoo that says that so I remember to drink a gallon daily!

 

[McT]

Holy crap man. Why do they not insist on pain medicine?

Some cheap rip-off lemon lime type Sprite remake is going to have to do it for now.

 

[NineFingers]

Holy crap man. Why do they not insist on pain medicine?

Some cheap rip-off lemon lime type Sprite remake is going to have to do it for now.

When you have the surgery they put you under, but when they pull the stent out on the follow up visit I guess there's no need for a "Surgical process" because it only takes a few minutes to do...and to be honest, isn't painful, just very very degrading and odd! The painful parts are when your stones are on the move, those lil buggers will drop you to the floor like you wouldn't believe. The last time I had em, I was on my way down my staircase and just started throwing up bile which is stomach acid juice because I had nothing to eat. The pain when the stones move is so great that it causes you to vomit, cry, and do just about all the yoga moves to find a position of least resistance, which btw, there is none, but you keep trying.

 

[McT]

Oi. More water down the hatch. I'm gonna stay hydrated as much as possible.

 

[Skookum]

The only pain that compared to when the kidney stone moves into the bladder would have been 12 hours after i broke my leg when i finally was able to relax in a hospital bed and the swelling went down and the shock went away for the pain receptors to finally tell me my leg was seriously f'ed.
i know exactly how messed up that pain is, some of the worst torture ever. So much pain you puke. Passing mine was not as painful as when it's moving around in your guts though. i didn't have medical insurance then so passed it by myself. Believe me it's not a fun thing to do either but still at least your not wishing you were dead.
i know another guy who suffered kidney stones for over 20 plus years. Doctor finally discovered a huge huge stone in his guts that was just flaking off small chunks that would disable him from time to time. He would just tough it out as well, but finally he got the right doctor and got opened up and has led a pain free life since.
Me i've changed my drinking habits, i hydrate and drink a ton of distilled water. haven't had one since, but i'm not fully convinced i'm not healed either.
i don't wish kidney stones on anyone. Even George Bush.

 

[NineFingers]

The only pain that compared to when the kidney stone moves into the bladder would have been 12 hours after i broke my leg when i finally was able to relax in a hospital bed and the swelling went down and the shock went away for the pain receptors to finally tell me my leg was seriously f'ed.

Yeah, for me it would have to be when the boulder ripped off my finger, kind of like that climber's story only I wasn't trapped for days and it was a finger not an arm. But I did manage to hike out 45 min. to the car and drive an hour to the hospital, fun times filling out my own insurance paperwork, especially because I'm left handed and that's the pinky that was taken.

Doctor finally discovered a huge huge stone in his guts that was just flaking off small chunks that would disable him from time to time. He would just tough it out as well, but finally he got the right doctor and got opened up and has led a pain free life since.

That must of been a gull bladder stone if it was in his stomach?

Yeah stones are no fun, the first three I had the first time were all peanut m&m size, then I had one peanut M&M size last year, and now two plain M&M's are chillin' in the kidney. Been pissing blood and clots for the past couple of months, no pain as of yet this time around ("Knock on wood"), just some discomfort and pressure, so I knew they were back. Hoping the highly reccomended Urologist Doc of the NW will be able to figure out why I'm getting em, I'm ready to make a change in the diet for several reasons if that's the reason.

 

[Skookum]

That must of been a gull bladder stone if it was in his stomach?

No it was hangin around in his pipes if i recall correctly. (i'm so incredibly versed in proper medical terminology... )

and now two plain M&M's are chillin' in the kidney. Hoping the highly reccomended Urologist Doc of the NW will be able to figure out why I'm getting em, .

yeah mine was a regular M&M size haha Peanut size is way too big to pass.
lemme know if that doc works wonders for you, i may have to look him up in the future if i have problems again.....

 

[NineFingers]

No it was hangin around in his pipes if i recall correctly. (i'm so incredibly versed in proper medical terminology... )

yeah mine was a regular M&M size haha Peanut size is way too big to pass.
lemme know if that doc works wonders for you, i may have to look him up in the future if i have problems again.....I love small animals!

You love small animals, what does that have to do with this post?

Yeah I've seen pictures of kidneys of autopsy patients that one of their kidney's was literally engulfed around a kidney stone that filled the entire kidney. Kind of scary that the waiste's just keeps adding to the existing stone particles that our body's produce.

The doctor was reccomended by my urologist. My urologist already has 20+ years of urology experience and currently works at Good Samaritan but this new doctor..."Dr. James Porter" at the UW medical center is the head Dr. in charge their and teaches all the intern residents. He's supposively the "Man" to see for urology related special problems and can only be scene if refered to by another urologist. If you have problems, I reccomend him as he seems to be on top of his game, he's just kind of impersonal as are most doctors. I really hate driving to Seattle and dealing with city life and all the rudeness that comes with it(crazy drivers, no parking, impersonal people) but I guess I'd rather deal with the city to get the job done right rather than keep going to a general urologist. Glad I have insurance.