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My Nuts Are Flat
Apr 18, 2002
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Towing the party line.
Tons of slalom and downhill photos tomorrow. Spent all evening fighting with a 16gb SD card that didn't want to copy, it's finally importing and I am exhausted. Stay tuned, sorry for the delay!
 

dump

Turbo Monkey
Oct 12, 2001
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Sweet - congrats everyone. Happy to see graves killing it... a course like this suits him of course, and Gwinny!
 

Akula_7

Monkey
Nov 15, 2004
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Mens DH Final.

1st - Jared Graves
2nd - Aaron Gwin
3rd - Brian Lopes
4th - Mick Hannah
5th - Cameron Cole

-KT
Yeaaahhhh Ram Hole, Fraser get some picks of Horse up tomorrow please. Yeti 1,2! Wonder how Gravey enjoyed the 2min + sprintathon?
 

luiz carlos

Monkey
Apr 15, 2002
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Brazil-Rio de Janeiro
As I posted at Vitalmtb, dual slalom has to return to WC events.

I really don't undestand the funny of a race(4X) that is decided at first corner.

Vantages of dual slalom:

The spectators can see the entire race.

Mostly races are head to head.

The return of classic downhill riders. (and not all that bmx specialist riders that are in 4X events nowadays.)
 

big-ted

Danced with A, attacked by C, fired by D.
Sep 27, 2005
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Vancouver, BC
Props to the winners, but I'm guessing that, as usual, the big guns were in cruise control for this one. Bring on Maribor!!
 

jnooth

Monkey
Sep 19, 2008
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Vermont Country
Coverage has been weak in my opinion.

does anybody know who won pump track?

and videos of dh? i saw one of practice from friday but thats it.
 

William42

fork ways
Jul 31, 2007
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Props to the winners, but I'm guessing that, as usual, the big guns were in cruise control for this one. Bring on Maribor!!
Do you mean how the past three years, everybody in the top 10 save brian lopes is also a regular top 10 contender and the guys winning/top 5 are all regular winners/top 5 contenders?

No, I'm pretty sure everybody pushes for a win here pretty hard. It may not be as big a deal as a WC, but it still matters. Also, I have some pics to upload. You will see graves give a lesson in "how to corner" while a bunch of half naked dudes and a drunk chick cheer him on.
 

rosenamedpoop

Turbo Monkey
Feb 27, 2004
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just Santa Cruz...
Ok, what the hell is going on with the coverage...?

Journalisto types please note: I admire, appreciate, and respect all your hard work at the races. Now may we please see some of you hard work?!?!?






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rosenamedpoop

Turbo Monkey
Feb 27, 2004
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just Santa Cruz...
Men's Slalom

1 171 HANNAH, MICK BUENA 27 VISTA CO 120473 GT Bicycles
2 163 GWIN, AARON 23 GOLDEN CO 274107 Yeti Fox Shox Factory Team
3 172 RANDO, JARED 29 HUNTINGTON BEACH CA AUS19810622 Giant Factory Team
4 162 GRAVES, JARED 28 GOLDEN CO 119545 AUS Yeti Fox Shox Factory Team
5 157 MINNAAR, GREG 29 PIETERMARITZBURG 19811113 santa Cruz Syndicate
6 473 STRAIT, KYLE M HUNTINGTON BEACH CA
7 153 ROPELATO, MITCH 18 OGDEN UT 240150
8 152 MULALLY, NEKO 17 READING PA 247831 Trek World Racing
9 160 ATHERTON, DAN 28 LLANGYNOG GBR19820125 Commencal
10 167 KOVARIK, CHRIS 32 QUEENSLAND QLD AUS19780301 Chain Reaction Cycles/Intense
11 186 FAIRCLOUGH, BRENDAN 22 LAKE ELSINORE CA GBR19880110
12 158 PEAT, STEVE 36 SHEFFIELD 19740617 santa Cruz Syndicate
13 155 NEETHLING, ANDREW 26 CAPE TOWN RSA19840805 Trek World Racing
14 22 HADERER, MIKE 24 CONCORD CA
15 156 TATARKOVIC, KAMIL 25 OLOMOUC CZE19850705 Scott FDF Team
16 159 BRYCELAND, JOSH 20 CHESHIRE 19900323 santa Cruz Syndicate
17 477 BRIAN, LOPES 39 LAGUNA BEACH CA OAKLEY/IBIS/MAZOCCHI/KE
18 460 ATKINSON, BRYN 28 FERNDALE WA
19 210 COLE, CAMERON 22 "CASHMERE CHRISTCHURCH"
20 208 RINDERKNECHT, ROGER 29 WINTERTHUR SUI19810504
21 165 BOICE, CHRIS 26 GOLDEN CO 215006 Yeti Fox Shox National Team
22 43 VA DINE, CHRIS 30 JIM THORPE PA
23 217 STEPHENSON III, GEORGE 30 FOLSOM CA 209787 Yeti National Team
24 491 VOREIS, KIRT 36 BEND OR SPECIALIZED/ALLRIDE TOUR
25 200 BINGGELI, LOGAN 21 RANCHO DOMINGUEZ CA 213148 KHS Bicycles
26 178 COUSINIE, FABIEN 24 CASTRES FRA19860814 black mountain morewood unit
27 168 LEHIKOINEN, MATTI 26 ESPOO FIN19840419
28 189 IMMER, TYLER 20 RANCHO MURIETA CA 276049 Yeti National team
29 187 BROSNAN, TROY 17 LAKE ELSINORE CA AUS19930713 Monster Energy-Specialized
30 216 GRACIA, CEDRIC 32 "ERTS LA MASSANA"
31 177 PAYET, FLORENT 24 MONTPELLIER FRA19861121 black mountain morewood unit
32 174 HART, DANNY 19 REDCAR GBR19910920 Giant Factory Team
 

rosenamedpoop

Turbo Monkey
Feb 27, 2004
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just Santa Cruz...
Women's Slalom

1 459 KINTNER, JILL 29 FERNDALE WA
2 224 ATHERTON, RACHEL 23 LLANGYNOG GBR19871206 Commencal
3 232 JONNIER, SABRINA 29 HYERES FRA19810819 Team Maxxis-Rocky Mountain
4 233 BUHL, MELISSA 28 RANCHO DOMINGUEZ CA 1251982 KHS Bicycles
5 475 DONOVAN, LEIGH 39 MURRIETA CA
6 234 PRUITT, KATHY 28 SARATOGA CA 117831 Jamis Bikes
7 229 MOSELEY, TRACY 31 WORCESTERSHIRE GBR19790412 Trek World Racing
8 226 BEERTEN, ANNEKE 28 MARIENVELDE NED19820707
9 230 GRIFFITHS, FIONN 28 SHREWSBURY GBR19820827 - 417842Norco World Team
10 225 BUCHAR, CLAIRE 32 WHISTLER BC CAN19780426 Chain Reaction Cycles/Intense
11 470 PETTERSON, JOANNA 31 FOLSOM CA
12 45 MYKLAK, LISA 32 FELTON CA
13 3 HOLDEN, KATIE 25 SCOTTS VALLEY CA
14 39 HARMONY, JACQUELINE 32 SEDONA AZ
15 228 MARTIN, JOY 34 POWAY CA 165525 Vixen Racing
16 227 WILLIAMSON, SONDRA 31 MORGAN HILL CA 218537
 

JaredGraves

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Oct 29, 2009
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I just have to have a quick reply, again abut the 4X Vs DS topic as mentioned earlier. While I love Slalom, nothing brought home the fact to me, that the top DH guys will NEVER do slalom at World cup level if it was brought back, as after 10 race runs yesterday, between Gwinny and Myslelf, we both woke up today with legs that felt like concrete blocks. No person who is serious about winning a DH world cup is going to waste energy on DS. Thats just how it is.

4X is its own deal and its gaining momentum, If the courses get rad and push the riders it has potential to be super sick. DS wont be a world cup discipline, get over it!
 

bobsten

Monkey
Oct 23, 2008
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rain rain go away
I just have to have a quick reply, again abut the 4X Vs DS topic as mentioned earlier. While I love Slalom, nothing brought home the fact to me, that the top DH guys will NEVER do slalom at World cup level if it was brought back, as after 10 race runs yesterday, between Gwinny and Myslelf, we both woke up today with legs that felt like concrete blocks. No person who is serious about winning a DH world cup is going to waste energy on DS. Thats just how it is.

4X is its own deal and its gaining momentum, If the courses get rad and push the riders it has potential to be super sick. DS wont be a world cup discipline, get over it!
Can we start "Like"-ing posts? This is a great example.
 

General Lee

Turbo Monkey
Oct 16, 2003
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The 802
I just have to have a quick reply, again abut the 4X Vs DS topic as mentioned earlier. While I love Slalom, nothing brought home the fact to me, that the top DH guys will NEVER do slalom at World cup level if it was brought back, as after 10 race runs yesterday, between Gwinny and Myslelf, we both woke up today with legs that felt like concrete blocks. No person who is serious about winning a DH world cup is going to waste energy on DS. Thats just how it is.

4X is its own deal and its gaining momentum, If the courses get rad and push the riders it has potential to be super sick. DS wont be a world cup discipline, get over it!
Sometimes I wonder if the if-there's-slalom-there-will-be-DH-racers crowd has ever raced a full 10 rounds on a proper track. Hill won Sea Otter last year and promptly said his legs were shot. At some tracks like Ste Anne the top DH guys only take 3 practice runs some days to save their legs for racing, you think they're going to race slalom? Not if its held before DH they won't.

Mt. bikers love slalom because we understand it, but everyone else just scratches their head. Trying to explain it to my friends way back when was a lost cause. and it looks pretty boring on TV too (and takes way to long to be broadcast live but that's a different story).


I'm not a 4x fan, that much i'll admit, but the only thing that will save 4x is 4x. not slalom.

edit: and Sea Otter's no WC track, heck its not even a DH track so the fact that Graves and Gwinn went 1-2 in DH after going 10 rounds in slalom doesn't really count for much.
 
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Dec 7, 2009
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Cloud Kiwi
As I posted at Vitalmtb, dual slalom has to return to WC events.

I really don't undestand the funny of a race(4X) that is decided at first corner.

Vantages of dual slalom:

The spectators can see the entire race.

Mostly races are head to head.

The return of classic downhill riders. (and not all that bmx specialist riders that are in 4X events nowadays.)
Hey Luiz I agree, much prefer the DS than the 4X, I do like 4x too but if had to choose the DS it would be, bu the guess 4X give the WC crew more exposure to different riders or different skills, I dunno be cool if time and money would allow both, maybe not realistic.

Still DS is awesome and more like DH than the BMX crowd would like I suspect, more skill less luck good or bad jmo though fwiw:thumb:
 

William42

fork ways
Jul 31, 2007
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since nobody else is posting any pictures, here are a couple of the DS. I went home today because none of us wanted to get home super late after watching the DH finals, so no DH pictures.





 

William42

fork ways
Jul 31, 2007
3,674
289
And, here it is kids: how to corner with half naked people cheering you on with Jared Graves.





 

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My Nuts Are Flat
Apr 18, 2002
18,045
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Towing the party line.
Coverage is slow from otter as usual because there is too much going on. everyone who is here to work is pinned from a 6am wakeup call, to 5pm when you get out of the traffic jam leaving laguna, dinner by 7 and back in bed by 9 in order to get up at 6am and repeat. it'll start to pop up tonight and tomorrow as everyone's flights to europe are cancelled thanks to a volcano.

And now on with the show...

Gwynn was on the gas, concrete block legs or not!