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Turbo Monkey
May 19, 2003
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I hope that they make the 150mm with the 1.5" steerer. Or, at least, I hope that the 180mm can be reduced to 150. I read on Dropmachine that the 150mm was going to be their 1.125" steerer, and the others (180 & 203mm) were 1.5". I'm gonna be in the market for a new single crown fork next season and, in my opinion, it'd be a shame if Manitou only had their longest travel forks in 1.5". Either way, it'll be a good suspension year in '06. :blah:

toby
 
in the trees

in the trees

Turbo Monkey
May 19, 2003
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ufdff15 - Thanks, that's good to know. Manitou should be doing everything it can to make 1.5s accessible to the public.

toby
 
TheInedibleHulk

TheInedibleHulk

Turbo Monkey
May 26, 2004
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Now Im tempted to wait and see how the travis 203 dc turns out before getting a fox. The sc is kinda cool IMO, if they can make it stiff and strong enough with an reasonable axle to crown. I wouldnt mind not having anything to knock my knees on on my dh bike.
 
Discostu

Discostu

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Nov 15, 2003
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Hopefully these new long travel SC's will lead to stronger crowns on the whole lineup. I got a Shiver SC after having a couple old (2000-2001) Z1's slowly develop cracks around the crown. Unfortunately the Shiver SC is now creaking and leaking oil around the crown too, so its time for a new fork soon. Can anyone reccomend an SC with a tough crown? I was thinking a Z1 FR1 or Sherman Flick.
 
profro

profro

Turbo Monkey
Feb 25, 2002
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BMXman said:
My Shiver SC is the perfect 20mm 4" travel fork...oooh but that's right it's flexy!...D
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Too bad that's not available in the States any more and you're right its a flexy noodle. :dead:
 
ÆX

ÆX

Turbo Monkey
Sep 8, 2001
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i like my SC, might have to try one of these.
manitou need an oil bath. then they would
be right up there w/marz.
 
punkassean

punkassean

Turbo Monkey
Feb 3, 2002
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That NSMB story confirmed that Fox is making a 160mm coil-sprung 36. And the best part is that it's black! Here's the pic

I know what I'll be getting next after a DHX air :D
 
Sherpa

Sherpa

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Jan 28, 2004
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bcd said:


i like my SC, might have to try one of these.
manitou need an oil bath. then they would
be right up there w/marz.
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I think i read somewhere that the new Manitous are oil bath, or maybe im just an idiot.
 
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Cwilly006

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Jul 13, 2004
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Sherpa said:
I think i read somewhere that the new Manitous are oil bath, or maybe im just an idiot.
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Yea I think I read that too I want to look into getting one of them looks promising, anyone have an idea of what the cost might be
 
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Rik

Turbo Monkey
Nov 6, 2001
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July-ish I think I was told.
There's now a Vanilla 32 and 36, as well as TALAS 32 and 36.
The 36 range having the high/low speed compression damping, and the 32's have the threshold-adjustable low speed compression damping.
I'd love to get a 150mm Vanilla 36 with threshold adjustment, but either way, the high/low will satisfy me.
 
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daevh

Chimp
Jun 14, 2004
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ufdff15 said:
the weight isn't included on the spec sheet, it's just measurements
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The Travis comes in two forms, the single crown and the twin crown. In each 'form' their are two damping systems, a new TPC+ which sits in a full open bath (like Marzocchi have always done and what makes them last a long time and feels sooo plush) rather than have the oil in a sealed cartridge and the new Intrinsic damping.

The Intrinsic is based around the SPV system but it removes the platform and just uses it's bottom out resistance properties. It's speed sensitive and supposedly offers incredible small bump performance.

Both the TPC+ and the Intrinsic only have compression and rebound adjustment.


There's also two other models but i think they're OEM only, the Travis Faction Single and the Travis Flare Triple both 203mm travel, heavier, with steel stanchions, only semi bath lubrication and made in Taiwan rather than the US.


Weights from the specs i have are -

Travis Single 150 (1.125" steerer) - 5.6lbs / 2539g
Travis Single 180 - 5.8lbs / 2650g
Travis Single 203 - 5.9lbs / 2676g
Travis Single Intrinsic 180 - 5.8lbs / 2650g
Travis Single Intrinsic 203 - 5.9lbs / 2676g
Travis Triple 180 - 7.8lbs / 3541g
Travis Triple 203 - 7.9lbs / 3583g
Travis Triple Intrinsic 180 - 7.1lbs / 3220g
Travis Triple Intrinsic 203 - 7.2lbs / 3256g


Travis Single 150 Axle to Crown Height -542mm
Travis Single 180 Axle to Crown Height - 572mm
Travis Single 203 Axle to Crown Height - 595mm
Travis Triple 180 Axle to Crown Height - 562mm
Travis Triple 203 Ride Height - 585mm


Recommended max tyre width - 2.75" / 70mm



There's also a rear shock called the Revox ISX which is a super high end DH/FR shock (at a guess the price is around £575-600GBP which is calculated from the OEM price). It uses the same speed sensitive Intrinsic damping system which gives the same adjustments as the current Swinger 6 way shock but it also lists three stage 'no tools' (Manitou's new buzz phrase to say that it doesn't need tools to adjust any part of it (apart from air pressure, obviously) SPV adjustment... Manitou don't make it clear what that is. It's quite possible it won't be available for 2006, it might disappear like the Evolver (DH air shock) did even though it was supposedly available or it may even be released!
 
OGRipper

OGRipper

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Feb 3, 2004
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punkassean said:
That NSMB story confirmed that Fox is making a 160mm coil-sprung 36. And the best part is that it's black!
I know what I'll be getting next after a DHX air :D
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I had a vision of my black heckler with a DHX Air and a 36. And there it is. :drool:

Oh damn, that's not mine. :angry: :p
 
sleepinggiant

sleepinggiant

Monkey
Jul 9, 2004
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daevh said:
Travis Triple 203 - 7.9lbs / 3583g
Travis Triple 203 Ride Height - 585mm
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Whats the weight and a-c of current 888's? Cuz if the Travis is shorter, lighter and is full open bath, that is gonna be one killer fork. (purely e-speculation of course)
 
oly

oly

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Dec 6, 2001
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punkassean said:
That NSMB story confirmed that Fox is making a 160mm coil-sprung 36. And the best part is that it's black! Here's the pic

I know what I'll be getting next after a DHX air :D
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saw both new products at a local race this past weekend. the coil 36 felt sick, but had no travel adjust. the DHX also felt pretty good. mind you these are parking lot impressions.
 
in the trees

in the trees

Turbo Monkey
May 19, 2003
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605mm or 23.8" A-C (from bti's website) for 888 200mm travel. I thought it was closer to around 23.5"-ish but I could be wrong.

So it appears that the Travis line will be pretty close in weight to the current Shermans. I'm curious about Manitou's oil-bath system. Could be good forks, though. They are definitely sounding very appealing to me.

toby
 
OGRipper

OGRipper

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Feb 3, 2004
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in the trees said:
605mm or 23.8" A-C (from bti's website) for 888 200mm travel. I thought it was closer to around 23.5"-ish but I could be wrong.
toby
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Yeah I measured 23.5" for the stock 200mm 888 with stock crowns. Went down an inch to 22.5 with the go-ride lowrider crowns.
 
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daevh

Chimp
Jun 14, 2004
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It's hard to work out in $US (even though the OEM pricing is given in $US) as the RRP and OEM of '05 forks don't seem to have much of a relation ship. Except the higher the OEM price the lower the mark up. $US OEM translates to £GBP much better for some reason.

Pretty accurate estimates in $US...

Travis Single = $650-750

Travis Single Intrinsic = $750-850

Travis Triple = $750-850

Travis Triple Intrinsic = $1000-1100
 
punkassean

punkassean

Turbo Monkey
Feb 3, 2002
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oly said:
saw both new products at a local race this past weekend. the coil 36 felt sick, but had no travel adjust. the DHX also felt pretty good. mind you these are parking lot impressions.
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That occurred to me earlier. I hope they can make a 160mm TALAS version otherwise it'd be nice if they bit the bullet and licensed U-Turn or RTWD from one of the other fork makers or at least came up with something similar. Either way I'm diggin' it all black and sexy like :drool:

Possibly next years Enduro SX Trail will have a DHX rear (air or coil, maybe in a 8.75x2.75 for 170mm?) and a 160mm 36. That would be really nice...
 
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Cwilly006

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Jul 13, 2004
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daevh said:
It's hard to work out in $US (even though the OEM pricing is given in $US) as the RRP and OEM of '05 forks don't seem to have much of a relation ship. Except the higher the OEM price the lower the mark up. $US OEM translates to £GBP much better for some reason.

Pretty accurate estimates in $US...

Travis Single = $650-750

Travis Single Intrinsic = $750-850

Travis Triple = $750-850

Travis Triple Intrinsic = $1000-1100
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Sounds pretty good Im really looking into getting one of these forks
 
punkassean

punkassean

Turbo Monkey
Feb 3, 2002
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dirtjumpP.1 said:
i dont really under stand these forks, is it like for if you wan to do a 30 ft drop and x-up over it?
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If they can really make an 8" SC fork that is burly enough than that my friend is the future. I personally don't see ever wanting/needing more than a 7" SC fork but who knows what I'll be saying in the near future.
 
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