[wysiwyg]

Anyone come across this? Got hard springs, im borderline at 15st, but cant get them past 15% sag and 50% travel.

Anyone else got hard springs? What weight are you and can you set them up?

Gonna drop the oil i reckon an see what heights we got.

Anyone come across this before? Windwave have no clue as to what it can be.

 

[NoUseForAName]

Could be a lack of terrain? Sherwood Pines = Gnarnia?
Try riding faster.

My wife only uses half of her 66s travel, so you are in good company.

Edit: OK helpful advice - If you are borderline for the hard springs, take them out (and use the stockers obviously) at least until you get to the Alps or Canada. Deal with the (now possibly very regular) bottoming with oil height, air gap, and compression management.

 

[wysiwyg]

Yes well the alps = saturday, and they dont come with stock, they come with hard, or med.

P.S. who the heck are you Duncan?

 

[IH8Rice]

how much do you weigh? im assuming by "hard springs" you mean the firm spring right? those are typically meant for heavier riders

 

[wysiwyg]

Yeah firm I weigh 15 stone whatever that is in lbs. I'm borderline med firm, marz said go firm. But even tryin to force them thru travel it's not happenin

 

[denjen]

15 stone = 210 pounds

If you are borderline, go with the lighter springs. I have always run one weight down from what Marzocchi says to. Also if its a new fork it may need to break in first.

 

[IH8Rice]

Yeah firm I weigh 15 stone whatever that is in lbs. I'm borderline med firm, marz said go firm. But even tryin to force them thru travel it's not happenin

if you are borderline, then you should go down in spring weight...especially if you cant even get more than half travel outa the fork

 

[Delimeat]

Is there a chance that there is too much oil in the fork? Sometimes people/shops forget to drain the cart during the oil change. You end up with whatever amount of oil you are supposed to have plus the oil inside the cart body.... which is waaay too much oil to get full travel.

Remove both springs and try to bottom the fork, you'll gain volume by removing the springs but it still should be apparent if the oil is too high. Has it been rebuilt lately? I've also heard of some Marzy forks coming with too much oil straight from North Korea where they are made.

 

[time-bomb]

Is there a chance that there is too much oil in the fork? Sometimes people/shops forget to drain the cart during the oil change. You end up with whatever amount of oil you are supposed to have plus the oil inside the cart body.... which is waaay too much oil to get full travel.

Remove both springs and try to bottom the fork, you'll gain volume by removing the springs but it still should be apparent if the oil is too high. Has it been rebuilt lately? I've also heard of some Marzy forks coming with too much oil straight from North Korea where they are made.

No wonder Marzocchi has been having problems. N. Korea hates us so they are sabotaging all the forks.

 

[Delimeat]

No wonder Marzocchi has been having problems. N. Korea hates us so they are sabotaging all the forks.

First gen Rockshox forks come from Iran.

 

[boxxerace]

Is there a chance that there is too much oil in the fork? Sometimes people/shops forget to drain the cart during the oil change. You end up with whatever amount of oil you are supposed to have plus the oil inside the cart body.... which is waaay too much oil to get full travel.

Remove both springs and try to bottom the fork, you'll gain volume by removing the springs but it still should be apparent if the oil is too high. Has it been rebuilt lately? I've also heard of some Marzy forks coming with too much oil straight from North Korea where they are made.

I don't know about every fork out there, but I know my zochi' instructs you first to bleed (aka: fill) the cartridge with oil, then continue to fill the stanchion to the proper level without the spring in the oil. For me, that's 80mm from the top.

Again, it might differ on the newer 888's or 66's or something, but I kind of doubt that.

 

[wysiwyg]

These are brand spankin, im gonna drop the oil tmrw and do it via volume.

 

[DirtyMike]

These are brand spankin, im gonna drop the oil tmrw and do it via volume.

Brand new zoke product = too much oil. pop the top caps, remove the springs, and for your size, go about 90mm from the top when fully compressed.


Run one hard spring, one medium. Should be what it came with. Another cool trick, if it has the air assist<15PSI Max> is to remove the core, push the fork down about an inch and a half, and put the core in<effectivly making negative pressure>.

 

[JohnnyC]

888's have only had 1 spring since 2008 and it is in the other leg to the damper. But check both sides anyway as they should both have the same amount of oil (310cc).

Is the red dial wound all the way anti clockwise? And is the compression knob wound on at all?

90mm from the top seems a bit high but I always fill them up by volume so I'm not 100% sure on that

 

[wysiwyg]

Right dropped all the oil, cant even compress the spring with no oil in it. Its massive, wouldnt look out of place on my car.