I'm looking for the names of some 135mm-spaced rear SS hubs (32 or 36 hole), disc or non-disc, cassette or freewheel. Just rattle some off! I need to pick one for my bike soon 
Thanks!
Thanks!
MTB SS Rear Hub?
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Ok there are plenty out there but i think these are the best: Spot, Surly and Chris King. The first two are thread on freewheels. The King is a cassette style.
DMR
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Zonic Man
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Ummm...in terms of hub performance, there IS nothing better than phil wood.
Anyone in the bike industry for long enough knows that.
Anyone in the bike industry for long enough knows that.
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Zonic Man
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NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! (Nice edit)
You know quite a bit about bikes....and to prove it.....
A while back, you were actually the one who recommended the phil wood over the king because the king had problems loosening and what not. It was you and Internal14 that strongly recommended the Phil.
And I am VERY hard on hubs, especially rear ones....this was YOUR recommendation to me as "the best rear hub".
If you recall....
planet x full monty i think. look at www.unrealcycles.com
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M.W.
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CAssette hubs are the sh*t.
Otherwise check out spot, surly, Planet X, DMR, etc.
Otherwise check out spot, surly, Planet X, DMR, etc.
Problem is, the Phil Wood uses a BMX freewheel, so if you want the best, you'll look at the best system, which would be a SS cassette hub.
Don't get me wrong, I run a Surly w/ a BMX freewheel, but those freewheels really weren't meant to take SS abuse and they are not sealed at all. Expect to replace them a lot and listen to them knock after the first ride.
If I ever upgrade, it will be to the On-One Cassette Disk hub. Much better deal than the King.
geeze, still no one has mentioned Paul hubs...though, i agree with Zonic Man on the Phils.
if you want cheap and burly, go with the On-One/PX Full Monty. things are freakin' huge. only problem is finding the bearings for them is a little tough. i doubt if any bike shop will carry them 'cause they are not typical bike bearings, nor are they in the QBP catalog. you'll have to go to a bearing supplier...(just had to replace mine)
(just a tip for those with "sealed" cartridge bearings on a SS...if you ride through creek crossings, after the ride, give the wheels a good spin with your hands...then like 6hrs later, do it again. it helps in getting the water out of the bearings)
if you want cheap and burly, go with the On-One/PX Full Monty. things are freakin' huge. only problem is finding the bearings for them is a little tough. i doubt if any bike shop will carry them 'cause they are not typical bike bearings, nor are they in the QBP catalog. you'll have to go to a bearing supplier...(just had to replace mine)
(just a tip for those with "sealed" cartridge bearings on a SS...if you ride through creek crossings, after the ride, give the wheels a good spin with your hands...then like 6hrs later, do it again. it helps in getting the water out of the bearings)
I'm using an AC MTB hub, with a 16t Shimano cog, and a buttload of spacers from 3 cassettes I killed for them. Then, I can just throw a cassette on there, and use it on another bike. Plus it was cheap, already had the wheels! My pic is too big for RM, can someone shrink it for me, if I email it to them?
J@G
J@G
well, yeah, i'm using an LX cassette hub right now with a load of spacers and a 14t xtr cog, but i was looking for something a little more ss-specific, i guess
freewheel would be my preference.
freewheel would be my preference.
Here it is, pic thanks to Randolph. I'm using a 16t Shimano BMX cog, much taller teeth, so better engagment.
J@G
J@G
Hey shibby!Originally posted by Shibby
I'm looking for the names of some 135mm-spaced rear SS hubs (32 or 36 hole), disc or non-disc, cassette or freewheel. Just rattle some off! I need to pick one for my bike soon
Thanks!
does it have to be a really burly wheel? cause otherwise I got a matrix/bullseye wheel that already has a BMX freewheel, it's an oldie but goodie thead on hub that's been re-spaced to use as an SS but it has a rather light/weak matrix rim with alloy nips. plus I'm in the area
Peas
ps I also got a singleator and the wheel is a standard qr, not bolt on
probably say "no" at this point b/c i have shop priveledges and such, but thanks for the offer.
i like the re-spacing idea. perhaps a cheap bmx hub with a load of spacers on the non-drive side to get it out to 135mm... mmm... awkward dishing
ha-rumph.
i like the re-spacing idea. perhaps a cheap bmx hub with a load of spacers on the non-drive side to get it out to 135mm... mmm... awkward dishing
ha-rumph.
Why do you need a cassette hub? BMX freewheels are great. Cheap, steel-toothed and easily replaced.
That said:
Surly
Spot (disc option)
Paul (disc option)
Planet X (disc option)
I'm using the Paul right now, but I have my doubts about it. Definately the weakest link on my bike.
1) The threaded holes for the rotor bolts are too shallow for Hayes bolts, I have to use washers to space them...LAME!
2) The brass (that's right, BRASS) shoulder washers for the axle bolts crack easily when you tighten the wheel enough in the dropouts to keep it from slipping, and they have to be special ordered from Paul...LAME!
Other than that it seems ok, and it's easy to adjust. I'd personally
check out the Full Monty for non-disc, and maybe the Spot for disc.
Feeling Gucci? Get the King. It's so tits!
Either way go for a dedicated SS hub, the equally dished wheel is worth it.
That said:
Surly
Spot (disc option)
Paul (disc option)
Planet X (disc option)
I'm using the Paul right now, but I have my doubts about it. Definately the weakest link on my bike.
1) The threaded holes for the rotor bolts are too shallow for Hayes bolts, I have to use washers to space them...LAME!
2) The brass (that's right, BRASS) shoulder washers for the axle bolts crack easily when you tighten the wheel enough in the dropouts to keep it from slipping, and they have to be special ordered from Paul...LAME!
Other than that it seems ok, and it's easy to adjust. I'd personally
check out the Full Monty for non-disc, and maybe the Spot for disc.
Feeling Gucci? Get the King. It's so tits!
Either way go for a dedicated SS hub, the equally dished wheel is worth it.
how much do the on-one hubs run riderx?
I have heard good things about the Phil and good things about the Pauls. I hear the Phil's are smoother ...? I am running last years Surly (boat anchor) rear hub and it holds up well. BMX freewheels get smoked quick though and if you are in an area with lots of stream crossings, there life is short. the upside is they can be easily obtained for 15 to 17$.
Phils are damn expensive (though that flip-flop hub would be oh-so-sexy), that's the only problem...i've read of Kings sounding like a "hive of rabid bees"...can't say i've ever heard any complaints about Pauls, but that obviously doesn't mean there aren't any.
Dude you can take any thread on hub you got laying around, pop it open flip the axle, and put it back together (with new grease and bearings of course), Re-dish the wheel and that's it.Originally posted by Shibby
probably say "no" at this point b/c i have shop priveledges and such, but thanks for the offer.
i like the re-spacing idea. perhaps a cheap bmx hub with a load of spacers on the non-drive side to get it out to 135mm... mmm... awkward dishing
ha-rumph.
If you work at a shop you know this is pretty much "free" if you guys are pack rats the same way we are.
I was gonna "give" you the wheel in exchange for a six
Whatever
Peas!
J
The On-one hubs are £99 which probably translates to around $150 American. Don't know the weight.
http://www.on-one.co.uk/
Paul's, I personally wouldn't recommend. Friend had one and has had several problems. The axle is aluminum, and is threaded for steel bolts. Well, these alum. threads stripped out. No surprise since you need to crank down pretty hard if you don't want your wheel to slip. Bearings also blew up twice. Plus, it's still a freewheel hub. So, if you stay w/ a freewheel hub, I say go cheap and durable - Surly.
is that the shimano bmx cog? i was looking at some actualy bmx cogs and they were threaded so they wont work on a mtb hub, obviously.
you can get just the cogs in many bike shops. I run the same unthreaded version on my commuter. you can get them at excel sports here in town and they have a mail order catalog for out of town customers
http://www.excelsports.com/products.asp
Those are freewheels, but Shimano has a DX cassette cog that fits on any Shimano cassette body. Shimano DX cog.
J@G
Oh great, that makes me worried.
Does Surly make a disc SS hub yet?
No, Surly isn't making a SS disc hub yet. Not to many people are. On-one, King, and I think Paul's and Phil. From what's available, I'd go w/ the On-one for value and the fact it doesn't use a freewheel. The point is moot for me right now anyway, I have a surly frame, no disc mounts, so I just run a disc up front.
I just went to the On-one site and holy sh!t, their index page is awesome.
Originally posted by riderx
The On-one hubs are £99 which probably translates to around $150 American. Don't know the weight.
http://www.on-one.co.uk/
