- - my 29 wheeled air sprung inedible - the psycho billy cadillac
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holy chit...
That's awsome... Part of my brain still can't come to terms with the way 29s look on a bike while another part thinks that bigger wheels would be faster. It hurts sometimes and this thread isn't helping. :mumble:
holy smokes dude, awesome!
that is some wild stuff. where have you ridden it and how does it feel? the 6" travel says trail bike. the HA says DH.
how do those wheels feel in the air? how about the corners? is the extra size a real indicator of extra rotational mass translating into forces that can be felt by the rider? i would imagine that the bigger the wheel gets, the harder it would be to turn it. however, i have no idea how large a margin of size increase is required to make things feel different. i don't notice a 24" vs 26" rear feeling different. however a 26" to a 29" in the front might be different enough.
nice work.
btw - happy 1,000th post to me
how do those wheels feel in the air? how about the corners? is the extra size a real indicator of extra rotational mass translating into forces that can be felt by the rider? i would imagine that the bigger the wheel gets, the harder it would be to turn it. however, i have no idea how large a margin of size increase is required to make things feel different. i don't notice a 24" vs 26" rear feeling different. however a 26" to a 29" in the front might be different enough.
nice work.
btw - happy 1,000th post to me
Holy smokes, could the chainstays possibly be any shorter? Looks sweet, I love it.
I submit that they could not.WheelieMan said:
How does the suspension work whilst pedaling? Also any tire bub issues?
Amazing work Alex.
looks amazing. i cant wait to hear how it rides.
cool, very curious to hear how it rides...
Taking it out to PDC?
holy crap man, props on that one.
i wonder what the future of 29ers is in DH...
love it. it should fit nicely in my super lightweight dh bike thread.
i wonder what the future of 29ers is in DH...
love it. it should fit nicely in my super lightweight dh bike thread.
looks like a fun ride 
nice! saw your article in decline very nice!
Nice Alex.
Nice flame detail at the head/top/down tube junction.
Yup, just like 24" was the future of DH 3 years ago.manhattanprjkt83 said:
Very impressive alex cant wait to get my hands on the Cogbox bike
sicknasty as usual alex
Eeeeeew damn thats awfull,pull it appart imediatelly please. yuk yuk yuk. 29 is wrong wrong wrong. If you're not already riding a bike with 1.95 tyres then why the hell would you sacrafice handling performance for pedaling economy??? I think you r frames are amazing and would love one but thats just awful. I do ride for the thrill and fun not the work out so maybee i just don't get it or care too.. Where are the cyclocross bars then?
My 2 cents.
Points for experiementing.
My 2 cents.
Points for experiementing.
wow, i never knew 29inch'ers were self-propelled....thats uhhmaziiing....bballe336 said:
They have a larger centrifugal force I'd say,harder and slower to turn,eif built as strong they'd be heavier and rebound issues.
You could say the same things about 26 inch wheels compared to 24 inch wheels...no skid marks said:
Rebound issues?
think you should rephrase again:bballe336 said:
larger wheels (may) have higher inertia which will make them harder to accelerate but conversely have more momentum.
they wont magically 'roll faster', but will want to maintain their speed and direction more than a wheel with lower inertia (because a heavier 26" wheel could behave the same with the same inertial properties). But since you could just add weight to a normal wheelset to get the same inertial properties, higher inertia (or more momentum) is not why you would run 29's. It's the larger diameter of the wheel vs. contact with the terrain that would set them apartm, or their ability to roll over larger objects (Monster Trucks anyone?).
Oh man! I have always liked those BCDs a lot
Apparently a 3" 29er feels like a 5" bike. They roll over stuff easier so they require less suspension.
Plus the wheels won't "fit" into normal braking bumps, a big plus IMO.
I'd really love to try that bike and see how it rides. I would think it would corner kinda funny but be good in semi-rough stuff.
Plus the wheels won't "fit" into normal braking bumps, a big plus IMO.
I'd really love to try that bike and see how it rides. I would think it would corner kinda funny but be good in semi-rough stuff.
tits!!!
the wheels i built up weight 300g less than my race 26 wheels.
so have less weight. due to single ply tire. and .5mm narrower rim.
after riding today on a tight dh track, to carve a quick corner you get
some front wheel flex and fork, but the wheel is most notable.
this is not a problem on the rear b/d i use a SS widely spaced flange
hub. I think i need a 135 width hub for 29 on the front. i am getting
a inverted fork with wide spacing to have room for my special front
hub.
i use the fork i have now b/c i thought it would do. 110 front hub will
not do so the fork has to go. it worked great though. White makes
great air forks. i think i am getting there inverted one next.
the 29 has more leverage on your bars. i was running 22 bars off my
dirt jump bike and the wheels got the best of me, toco'in my wheel
down a steep section. somehow i ran down 40' nonexistent trail full
of rock ledges and hard pack dirt ruts. both my heels are bruised. with
26'' bars i think i would have been fine.
the exiwolf tires i did not get a good test on. they worked ok on the hard
pack pea gravel as good as they could. however the wheels do roll over
stuff just as good as i expected, even better in some nasty
rock gardens when i went off-line. i did sit on my rear once absorbing b/f
a drop. that is unavoidable and i will just have to adjust.
i was jumping front wheel high for some reason? maybe i am just getting used to them?
just putting on 29s to try on a 26 bike doesn't give them a fair change.
the bike is by no means dialed! bb is to high, head angle is too slack,
not 6'' in the front, tall narrow bars and flexy front wheel all made for some sketch riding.
i'll post some pics/vid soon.
so have less weight. due to single ply tire. and .5mm narrower rim.
after riding today on a tight dh track, to carve a quick corner you get
some front wheel flex and fork, but the wheel is most notable.
this is not a problem on the rear b/d i use a SS widely spaced flange
hub. I think i need a 135 width hub for 29 on the front. i am getting
a inverted fork with wide spacing to have room for my special front
hub.
i use the fork i have now b/c i thought it would do. 110 front hub will
not do so the fork has to go. it worked great though. White makes
great air forks. i think i am getting there inverted one next.
the 29 has more leverage on your bars. i was running 22 bars off my
dirt jump bike and the wheels got the best of me, toco'in my wheel
down a steep section. somehow i ran down 40' nonexistent trail full
of rock ledges and hard pack dirt ruts. both my heels are bruised. with
26'' bars i think i would have been fine.
the exiwolf tires i did not get a good test on. they worked ok on the hard
pack pea gravel as good as they could. however the wheels do roll over
stuff just as good as i expected, even better in some nasty
rock gardens when i went off-line. i did sit on my rear once absorbing b/f
a drop. that is unavoidable and i will just have to adjust.
i was jumping front wheel high for some reason? maybe i am just getting used to them?
just putting on 29s to try on a 26 bike doesn't give them a fair change.
the bike is by no means dialed! bb is to high, head angle is too slack,
not 6'' in the front, tall narrow bars and flexy front wheel all made for some sketch riding.
i'll post some pics/vid soon.
well considering an average mtb tire is really about 27", 2 inches more tire for 2 inches less suspension sounds like a zero-sum gainBicyclist said:
well, having your bb 2'' lower in relation to you axles has a cornering advantage. when tires are availible you will get increaced tire patch.zedro said:well considering an average mtb tire is really about 27", 2 inches more tire for 2 inches less suspension sounds like a zero-sum gain
not everone will fall in love. to each his own. but so far i like them.
