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New Dirt/Street frame from Azonic...

SDH Racing

Monkey
Apr 5, 2006
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NE
Alright so I figured enough time has gone by so I might as well spill the beans now...
Last June, I got together with Dan Burt in charge of Azonic product development to make a "start from scratch" dirt/street frame to replace the outdated "Steelhead" that ended production last year.

After conversing back and forth and going over idea's on both sides, I presented him my completed "Turn Key" design and this past winter/spring the frame finally made it through all its phases and into production for a 2010 release.

Frame
Dirt Dingo

Two sizes will be offered and it's made from 4130 chromoly using specially formed seat and chain stay braces for maximum tire clearance but having super short 15 1/2 inch chain stays to keep those manuals going even longer.
Also uses an integrated headset and its geometry will allow up to an 85mm fork while still staying balanced (80mm is ideal for street).
Pics coming soon...
 

SDH Racing

Monkey
Apr 5, 2006
341
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NE
Alright, well it took longer then thought to get it produced but here it is. The frame is actually my design that I allowed Azonic to use in order to bring it to life since I did not have the means or $$$ backing to produce a frame but really wanted to see this come to life. The only thing I'd change really is taking an inch off the seat tube from it's current 13in size down to 12.


Features:
Removable derailleur hanger for single speed applications
Compatible with 26" or 24" rear wheel
Disc and V-Brake compatible
69 degree head angle
Fully Integrated headset 1-1/8"
Front Derailleur 31.8
Seat Post Clamp 29.8mm
Bottom Bracket 68mm
Rear Drop out 135mm

 
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Flat tyres

Monkey
May 30, 2007
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Still a Steelhead, sorry, and nothing wrong with that. They seem to pile at my house like empty beer cans. Good luck, I am sure they will sell.
 

SDH Racing

Monkey
Apr 5, 2006
341
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NE
Still a Steelhead, sorry, and nothing wrong with that. They seem to pile at my house like empty beer cans. Good luck, I am sure they will sell.
I guess you could insert the classic "looks can be deceiving" quote here. Yes it looks like a steelhead but the geo is completely different then the previous model. Also this is designed with a touch more "multipurpose" in mind like 4X and such, my original design was more street/DJ oriented but I guess they changed it a bit to market it to a wider range of customers.
But like I said the main unseen difference is the geo, where as the old SH used more MTB/XC geo, this uses similar geo like a Blk Mrkt Mob for example. Well when we have our next meeting I'm going to bring up the subject of lowering the seat tube an inch and see what happens from there.

Edit*
If you click this link it will take you to Haro's page showing their DJ bikes which are the same size frame as this one and you can get an idea what one would look like if it were built up completely.
http://www.harobikes.com/mtb/tab2_subNav2.php
 
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Bryan67

Chimp
Nov 23, 2007
83
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Fresno, Ca.
Alright, well it took longer then thought to get it produced but here it is. The frame is actually my design that I allowed Azonic to use in order to bring it to life since I did not have the means or $$$ backing to produce a frame but really wanted to see this come to life. The only thing I'd change really is taking an inch off the seat tube from it's current 13in size down to 12.


Features:
Removable derailleur hanger for single speed applications
Compatible with 26" or 24" rear wheel
Disc and V-Brake compatible
69 degree head angle
Fully Integrated headset 1-1/8"
Front Derailleur 31.8
Seat Post Clamp 29.8mm
Bottom Bracket 68mm
Rear Drop out 135mm

It looks like you are trying to please too many people with that design. V brakes AND disc brakes? ISG mounts? 24 AND 26"? SS AND derrailleur? Look at all those cable guides on it also.
 

SDH Racing

Monkey
Apr 5, 2006
341
0
NE
I agree, but that part was untold to me until it came to productions. My intent was for it to be a pure DJ/Street design but when the marketing boys got a hold of it what I came to find out later is they wanted it to be "multi-purpose" which is why you see all the various "editions" added on. It coems down to being able to look past all that and see it for the DJ bike it is geometry speaking that is.
Well anyways it's better then the other versions from before and being able to add a chain guide will appeal to 4X and even some DJ'ers that like to run gears and such.

Again, here's a link from Haro to see what one would look like when built since its the same size frame base.
http://www.harobikes.com/mtb/tab2_subNav2.php
 

FR4life.

Monkey
Nov 2, 2004
608
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The Bay
Looks like a fvckin oil rig to me, with all those cable guides and brake mounts and iscg tabs and whatnot.. Too much unnecessary bits and pieces. IMO, a steel hardtail frame these days should have a spanish or mid bb, and if you want U brake mounts make them removable like on eastern bmx's. Just doesn't look like it's evolved much since 2005..
 

ServeEm

Turbo Monkey
Feb 21, 2006
1,017
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SacTown
It's hard to please everyone so the multipurpose attempt is a bit over done. Way too many options for this frame.
 

SDH Racing

Monkey
Apr 5, 2006
341
0
NE
I agree it could be taken down a notch, and I'm going to talk with them about doing another version but it depends what they're budget is and how many things are selling. What throws it off for some is the higher then normal looking seat tube at 13in rather then 12 or 11 for most DJ/street bikes. But since they made it more "multi-purpose" it's why you see all the features added to it. Personally I dont mind being able to have the option of throwing some canti style brakes on incase someone doesn't have the extra $$$ for a good set of hydro discs.
Also like I said before the geo is completely different then the old version so it "looks" the same but will ride differently.
 

demo 9

Turbo Monkey
Jan 31, 2007
5,911
45
north jersey
I agree it could be taken down a notch, and I'm going to talk with them about doing another version but it depends what they're budget is and how many things are selling. What throws it off for some is the higher then normal looking seat tube at 13in rather then 12 or 11 for most DJ/street bikes. But since they made it more "multi-purpose" it's why you see all the features added to it. Personally I dont mind being able to have the option of throwing some canti style brakes on incase someone doesn't have the extra $$$ for a good set of hydro discs.
Also like I said before the geo is completely different then the old version so it "looks" the same but will ride differently.
jack of all trades, master of none!

personally i think that will be its downfall. Especailly on here, most people look for the 1 bike they want/need, i dont say, hmmm im going to buy a hardtail that will be my xc bike and dj bike. i find the bike i want, a rockhopper(or w.e) for xc and a simpleco for dj
 

DirtBag

Monkey
Feb 1, 2006
649
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I am a clean lines sort of guy. I like my DJ to have zero extra bits. No unused BB tabs, no unused derailleur tabs, etc. I am also a dedicated frame guy. I have a 26" and a 24" for different reasons. Also I personally HATE huge, clunky, rear dropouts. Especially on a DJ. Nice, small, solid and clean horizontal drops function well and look so much better.

But this frame will fit a specific group of people. Some guys may have a spare wheel set and flip/flop between DJ and trails. Even 24/26 wheelsets.
 

sealclubber

Monkey
Nov 21, 2007
544
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i agree with everything said, but bear in mind its sort of "entry level" so there is cost cutting in all directions. buyers dont want to spend much and care less about the unneeded tabs.
 

Chesley

Chimp
Mar 16, 2013
15
0
has anyone built up one of these frames ,Wheelworld says guessing at cane creek 36x45, azonic usa says pretty confident campy 45x45. the cane creek web site said it would get back to me within 24hr, been 4 days. FSA sells a tool to gauge this, but how often would that get used. If any one knows please help