[mandown]

Pinkbike posted up a story on the P30 guide. Coming in at 222 grams and sporting some "new technology" in the design department.

I don't know if any of it works, but it does look nice on the page.

Link to Pink

 

[beaverbiker]

oh, it works allright. it works really well. the new bashguards are quite a bit tougher than the older ones.

 

[HenryTheHammer]

I love my original gamut. That thing is beautiful!

 

[mandown]

i've been running a gamut guide for a while now. my biggest beef with it was that i lost the retention nut on the back of one of the bolts and the thing came loose at whistler. i went to a shop to get it fixed and it turned out the bolt and nut were imperial and not metric. i had to go to three shops to find anyone with an imperial allen key. i did find one and ended up using a wad of loc-tite to keep things together (still holding strong).

imperial suxorz - STOP IT!!! metric kplzthxbai.

 

[dropmachine]

gamut is so on the ball, its almost silly. They sent one for review, and as i write it, i sound like a gushing fanboy. Great product for sure.

 

[kidwoo]

oh, it works allright. it works really well. the new bashguards are quite a bit tougher than the older ones.

Do you know if he's using metric fasteners for the new stuff?

 

[Prettym1k3]

I love their stuff. Have a P20 on one bike, and a P40 on another.

If they made road bike bashguards, I'd have one on my other bike.

Hahaha...

 

[beaverbiker]

I know the top bolts are metric (#6 and #4 allen). I'm not sure about the bottom one on the roller, because I just spin it with my fingers until it's close to the boomerang, and then lock down the jam nut. After I set it once, I never move it and haven't needed to put a wrench on it. I'll ask him later today.

 

[Kanye West]

Beavs how is the newer bash stronger than the old ones? How long ago did they start shipping the better ones?

 

[davet]

The new bash is definitely different than the older ones. The inside areas are relieved of some material rather than the constant thickness of the old ones. Lighter and stronger? wow, that usually means more $$ but not in this case.

I think my P30 actually came in a few grams lighter that advertised, but my scale may be a we bit off in the lower range.

 

[beaverbiker]

The new bashguard doesn't crack around the bolt holes and can take front impacts from rocks and such just as well, if not better, than the previous design. The new bashguards aren't machined, so it's easy to do more complex shapes without raising the cost like you would with machining steps. I'm not sure when these new ones start shipping, probably very soon if not already. They wouldn't post a press release if they weren't ready to deliver it to the public. A lot of us have been riding them for a long time and they work KILLER. If anyone wants to see one in person and is at Sea Otter next week, find me during DH practice or roaming around on my carbon Enduro SL and I'll give you a look see.

 

[springfish]

Looks like they ripped off MRP and e13.

 

[kidwoo]

Thanks for the info beavs.


Looks like the graziosis will get some more of my money this summer.

 

[syadasti]

hehehehe, cool beavis

 

[konastab01]

Yep Been running Gamut away from the start.
What a guide they guys produce.
Top Banana.

 

[cheetaprowlerDH]

aaarrrggghhh, i have a Gamut sitting on my wall in my garage but a like 1995 DH Systems guide sitting on my Rotec! only thing is that i need 4 bolt cranks... and my cranks wont accept a bashguard, 5 bolt or not...
ugh, DHing on no money SUCKS!!!

the new on looks rad though!!! 222g's?!?!?! holy shartknockers batman! thats awesome!

 

[davet]

the new on looks rad though!!! 222g's?!?!?! holy shartknockers batman! thats awesome!

yeah the whole guide and guard is lighter than my old E.13 bashguard by itself.

 

[Jensen]

oh, it works allright. it works really well. the new bashguards are quite a bit tougher than the older ones.

ive check beavs out and its a slick bash. im going to be stepping up to a 36T on my enduro, and will be ordering one when their avail

 

[fred.r]

I've seen the old style bash guards explode on contact with rocks a few times. Hopefully the new bashes really are stronger.

 

[Bulldog]

yeah the whole guide and guard is lighter than my old E.13 bashguard by itself.

That right there is the first comment to make me seriously consider ditching my original Evil Security guide.

 

[davet]

I've seen the old style bash guards explode on contact with rocks a few times. Hopefully the new bashes really are stronger.

I've beat the snot out of my old P40 bashguard with a 13.75" bb and complete lack of finesse for over a year. It held up just fine and it's been well used and abused.

 

[fred.r]

I've beat the snot out of my old P40 bashguard with a 13.75" bb and complete lack of finesse for over a year. It held up just fine and it's been well used and abused.

Cool, I'm not saying you, or anyone else hasn't been... well, except the few I've seen explode.
But I'm sure it could happen to any bash, I've just only seen it happen to Gammuts.
I've also seen some of my friends run the same Gammut bash for over a year.

 

[Pslide]

Maybe I'm not keeping up with the times, but since when did we go away from ISGS and back to BB mounts? Are we back where we started?

 

[kuksul08]

I had a gamut P30 like 9 months ago, but had to return it because the lbs guy didn't tell me it was made for big rings only. It was definitely lighter, I think it has something to do with the bolts being made of a different material or different design.

 

[CBJ]

Maybe I'm not keeping up with the times, but since when did we go away from ISGS and back to BB mounts? Are we back where we started?

I don't understand that either. I have never had any problems with the tabs or seen people with problems even less stress problems as mentioned in the press released.

 

[cheetaprowlerDH]

maybe they were forced to do BB mount because of the boomerang being so thin... drilling holes could weaken its structure...
i dont know how thick it is and i dont know why its not ISCG, but it looks really thin in the picture so that got me thinking...

.02

 

[davet]

You can get it with either way, bb mount or iscg.

The backplate isn't that thin, about 4mm, but it will bend if you smoke it will a rock. I find most of the times that I hit the bash, the roller is tucked up out of the way and doesn't get hit. Unfortunately if you hit a pointed rock that finds it's way between the bash and the rear tire you might tweak it (as my buddy found out today)

 

[Ringer]

has anyone gotten the new bash yet? I've seen yours curtis, but want to order one when they come with the new bash.

 

[syadasti]

 

[Ringer]

sweet. where did you order from?

 

[Eurotrash]

I think what they are refering to when they talk about damaging the ISCG mounts is when you have the bash plate mounted to the chain guide not the cranks (LG1 with taco...) because I have the new price list and P30 is available in flange, iscg and iscg 05.
I am one of the French distributors for Gamut and we haven't had a single one come back so far. A really nice little product!

 

[Jonny5]

I have one on too. Its bloody awesome. From memory the bashie was 25g lighter than the old model (in p30). It feels much more flexible and crazy light. Will be interesting to see what knocks it can take, but I'm confident its a far Superior product to the older models as the level of engineering has really stepped up. These are some sort of injection mold, where the others were a cnc piece. Hopefully this might even mean a drop in pricing once the molds have been paid for, as it would cost a bunch less to make each unit.

what are those xtrs going on?

 

[syadasti]

what are those xtrs going on?

SC BLT2

 

[Playdeep]

Those things look sweet. I think I will be getting them for all my bikes.