[Downhiller]

http://www.nicolai.net/

i see some crazy colors in frame section and new frames !

i like old tst design..

and new catalog in pdf for complete bikes and specs:

http://www.nicolai.net/dsk/print/DSK-e-katalog-07.pdf

 

[ÆX]

they have the best site i think.
and the email updates are awsome

 

[ÆX]

bcdracing.com/edible/explosion-g-boxx2.pdf

cool gboxx pic

 

[dgrif]

That lambda st sure is funky lookin

 

[Kntr]

Anyone know where it list the travel of the bike?

 

[LOOnatic]

Those paint jobs are sick...blue camo

Would look good on a demo

Kanter: i think the Lamda has 8'..my avy came off one and thats what i remember orven saying.

edit: specs list 223mm

 

[CrabJoe StretchPants]

i never realized how many frames nicolai had until you them all there like that.


crazy.

 

[bdamschen]

I like how their full sus tandem is described as "Freeride Tandem"

Could you imagine riding a skinny or hitting a drop on someting like that?


What's with the difference in gboxx sizes between their all mountain frame and their dh frame? taller gears in the all mountain?

 

[mandown]

wow!

 

[sethimus]

What's with the difference in gboxx sizes between their all mountain frame and their dh frame? taller gears in the all mountain?

dh bike = g-boxx 1
all mtn bike = g-boxx 2

 

[Fury]

They produce a huge variation of frames... how much do they cost? It seems pretty inefficient to have 4 downhill frames rather then get one or two good designs to gain some economies of scale.

 

[LOOnatic]

they cost ALOT!

 

[Ozzer]

Those paint jobs are sick...blue camo

Would look good on a demo

Kanter: i think the Lamda has 8'..my avy came off one and thats what i remember orven saying.

edit: specs list 223mm

And I still would like to get it back...custom geometry for me and all.

 

[xy9ine]

the evo is looking even more refined this year; very nice. 6035eur (~7660usd!) though...

 

[dh gangster]

i never knew they had so many bikes.
those are sick!

 

[dropsdon'tlikem]

husselfelts?!?! you spend over 7 grand on a frame and they give you HUSSELFELTS.

 

[oscerthegrouch]

anyone know any place to buy them online in america?

 

[Dogboy]

husselfelts?!?! you spend over 7 grand on a frame and they give you HUSSELFELTS.

Haha. I thought the same thing.

 

[dropmachine]

husselfelts?!?! you spend over 7 grand on a frame and they give you HUSSELFELTS.

Nobody in thier right mind spends 7 grand on a frame anyways.

Thats just silly. There is nothing even close on that frame to justifying 7 grand.

 

[LOOnatic]

Nobody in thier right mind spends 7 grand on a frame anyways.

Thats just silly. There is nothing even close on that frame to justifying 7 grand.

Yeah 7 G's is outrageous but i would love to rock that frame.

At $2 K they would sell em like hot cakes

 

[dropmachine]

7 g's isn't outrageous, its an insult. Its like they sat there and said "Watch this, I bet the idiots still buy it."

 

[ChrisRobin]

They produce a huge variation of frames... how much do they cost? It seems pretty inefficient to have 4 downhill frames rather then get one or two good designs to gain some economies of scale.

They have 3 DH specific frames: TST evo, M-Pire and Lambda.

They've been making the Lamba for several years now so they really only have 2 frames that are main contenders.

But they do have a lot of frames from regular short travel XC to long travel FR.

All expensive!

 

[Kntr]

Yeah 7 G's is outrageous but i would love to rock that frame.

At $2 K they would sell em like hot cakes

They sold about 60 G-boxx bikes last year is what I heard. Dont quote me on that. I agree if the price was lower, they would sell. Even if they were in the $3k-4k range.

 

[aggrorider]

I would love to own a UFO ST in a 1.5 version. Put a totem on it and

 

[atrokz]

There is nothing even close on that frame to justifying 7 grand.

Says person without manufacturing expertise.

Expensive no doubt but look into the details and it actualy makes a lot of sense, but we know there is no convincing you regardless of the whole story. What they need to do is make a no frills, ultra simple to produce G-Boxx DH bike that lowers the price by a few K. Then perhaps normal people can afford them. Even still, it would be made in that type of manufacturing enviroment, so it will still be considered 'expensive' to most, and a 'bargan' to some.

 

[dropmachine]

Riiiiight. A squirrel with a head injury needs about ---><---- that much expertise in manufacturing to realize that any bike frame, unless the thing is made of gods scrotum, should not cost 7600 US.

Admittedly its a nice looking frame for sure, some serious machine work and nicely put together. But gimme a break. 7600? Thats a joke, and the biggest "You have to pay to be cool like us" gouge ever. There is simply no other explanation, no matter what "the whole story" is. And its not against the company either, anyone else that did something like that owuld get the same critique.

The rest of the line seems much more reasonable, and dialed. The UFO is ridiculously sexy. Both of them actually. Helius ST too. Mmm.

 

[dump]

the euro is rather strong compared to the weak dollar at the moment... that could be a big part of the "problem" with that price.

 

[BMXman]

the euro is rather strong compared to the weak dollar at the moment... that could be a big part of the "problem" with that price.

that's a huge part of it....I remember buying my frame and then less than 3 months later the people who waited had to pay almost 50% more. The dollare is getting it's arse kicked right now. Now that I'm in Canada it's even worse. I do think that if the G-boxx frames could come in at or under $4000 they would sell more. I would by another one if I could get it for around $3500-3750 totally worth it IMO....D

 

[dropmachine]

Agreed. The tech has its place for sure, but the price of it is just ridiculous. If it was 4gs, I would't complain. But when you convert it on XE.com, its over 8600 CAD!!!!

crazy.


Somebody gimme a UFO.

 

[Transcend]

What they need to do is make a no frills, ultra simple to produce G-Boxx DH bike that lowers the price by a few K.

This is exactly why orange is trying ot produce a no frills gearbox bike. At the moment one of each type (vboxx, gboxx). Apparently it will not sell for too much more than the 224 in europe (basically, 224 + price of gearbox).

Of course, by the time it is imported to Canada the price will still be absurd. It will be one of the cheapest gearbox bikes on the market if you live in the UK and possibly the rest of Europe however.

 

[TheMontashu]

I am planing on getting the tst evo for my next bike, BUT I also work at a shop and plan on EPing one.

 

[sethimus]

i dunno what u all have? we europeans have always the highest price. a product what sells in your country for 100$ will be always 100eur or higher..
also the loans in germany a very high, these bikes are 100% made in germany. u not only pay the frame, u also pay the costs of the whole g-boxx developement...

 

[BMXman]

I am planing on getting the tst evo for my next bike, BUT I also work at a shop and plan on EPing one.

uh good luck with that! ....D

 

[seismic]

I liked the old Nucleon DH with the huge rear swinger....it was awesome but isnt made anymore....

 

[Heath Sherratt]

uh good luck with that! ....D

And he's going to make it weigh under 30 lbs.!!

 

[Daver]

husselfelts?!?! you spend over 7 grand on a frame and they give you HUSSELFELTS.

Actually, they will come with the 07 Holzfellers with the external bearing setup.

I would love to own a UFO ST in a 1.5 version. Put a totem on it and

All the UFO ST's are 1.5"...

 

[TheMontashu]

And he's going to make it weigh under 30 lbs.!!

Nope long as its sub 40, If I wanted a sub 30 pound bike I would find a realy light single pivot frame, get a boxxer WC and a DHX air.