Bike looks really nice man. Enjoy it!!! If you want to lower the bars down a little, get a flat top crown for your Boxxer. It should lower it about an 1" to 1.5".
It wouldn't work. Intense has a 5.5" headtube, you need that drop crown.
Yes it does in a way. The height of the bars from the ground up it would, but from top of HT and up no. You can move your stanchions up to lower the front end on a Boxxer with the flat crown.
On the Boxxer you only have about 3/4 of a inch to run the stanchions above the top crown so when you bottom out the fork it will not hit the bottom crown. Looks like that is the way he has it now.
Not with the flat crown. There would be more distance between a flat crown and a drop crown from the bottom crown. Thanks about it. That gives the stanchions more room to move up in results will drop the front end down.
Its kinda of a moot point, he can't run one any way, the headtube is too tall
I thought we past the idea of him doing this. Sorry I was talking in general if he could run a flat crown.Its kinda of a moot point, he can't run one any way, the headtube is too tall
You only have about 3/4" to run them past the top crown before the fork bottoms out on the lower crown on most setups.. Now with the drop crown he maybe able to go to 1" 1/4. Not much more.
Nah mate, there's not enough stanchion under the lower crown to push the fork through any further. The lower crown will hit the fork lowers and full compression if I do. I need the drop crown to even reach the top of the stanchion.
Give Malcolm at Cane Creek a call. They have a low stack and zero stack upper headset that you can run that will allow you to lower your stack, crown and thus stem and bars. You can keep your current lower cups since most load is there anyway.
My suggestion would to be to call Cane Creek and ask what the lowest upper stack height is that he could get away with on the M1. They'll be honest about it. Call FSA and ask the same question.Sorry bizutch, that whole post is pretty much wrong because of this tidbit that you may have missed on the canecreek site:
"...and are compatible only with specifically machined head tubes. "
It's not a conventional headset, which is all the M3 accepts. If you are looking for the lowest conventional headset, that would be the FSA Orbit Xtreme (not Xtreme Pro). Nothing is lower, if i'm wrong I wanna hear about it!
Look at the picture I posted VERY carefully. Study the picture CAREFULLY. It's an external headset that drops inside the headtube.What on earth are you talking about? For starters it's an M3 - not that it makes a difference.
It's a standard 1 1/8 headtube, and it's not designed to take the 1 1/8 zero-stack headset cups you mentioned earlier that require a specific (and nonstandard) headtube. So like I said, all you can run is a conventional 1 1/8 headset!
There is no frame manufacturer imposed limit to how low a headset you can run, your only restriction is the conventional headsets that actually exist - and by nature they aren't low. I already named the lowest one.
Now, here is the Cane Creek Zero Stack cutaway. Notice the actual bearing cups that drop into the frame to cradle the bearings:
thanks...that's the answer I was looking for.
But the bearings would be tiny.
true. But I would think we're not far from it happening.
Be cooler if every manufacturer used a 1.5" HT
Sorry buddy, you were wrong... I explained it quite adequately twice, just as the site did. Funny how it's magically right when someone else says it... nice try though.
Sorry to hijack Toods, but Udi was right in his post above biz.
adds weight...
Do you even realize why toodles made that statement?adds weight...
but its getting there anyways, but look at the 07 dhr,it went from 1.5 to 11/8 by customers request. i dont think its that essential in dh bike yet. freeride bikes for sure.
