New suspensiony things!
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but it is not bong!
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Moar Otter suspension:
They're running Kenda Nevegals. They obviously have no idea what they're doing.Moar Otter suspension:
Bullit + dw link
Finally, some stay count competition for the baseline Demo 8!
It's also nice to see someone has found another way to use those old Ellsworth Joker swing arms besides Eastern.
It's also nice to see someone has found another way to use those old Ellsworth Joker swing arms besides Eastern.
Exactly. I don't understand why people think creating a super complicated linkage will somehow make a better bike. It's a good idea to avoid patents and it will work as a marketing tool to dorks and dirt but basically you just have to think how the leverage changes and where the axle goes (and it's derivatives). Ffs it's not rocket science. Just know what characterisitcs you like, read a few books, ride a few bikes and improve on them.
Not that I don't like the bike. If the susp is designed well here I'm all up for it. I just don't like where people hype up suspension because it "Looks complicated".
I like it because it might be able to approach a -dw link, which is closer to what I think is ideal for a few reasons....but the number of people on bikerumor that thought this was a linkage-driven single pivot is a testament to how little the general riding public understands by looking at a thing.
Yeah a dw link anti squat and axle path with a decent leverage curve would be nice. Though it's not like it's as groundbeaking as some people make it.
it's the axle path/anti squat curve that are different. It looks like this doesn't actually achieve it, but I'd rather see zero AS at top out going up to ~110%, then raising up to 150 or whatever at bottom out. That way you will always have active suspension even when really hammering out of the saddles up steep climbs, and under a very hard impact you'll give the rear wheel a little kick to move you forward. Besides, at bottom out, most of your weight is pretty firmly on the pedals so you shouldn't feel it as much as you would elsewhere in the travel.
Well it depends on how sharply it shortens. I doubt it can by that much but a big shortening on bottom out can have a negative outcome on stability. Though that's just the theory. Unless we test it it's hard to tell if it is noticeable.
160mm linkage driven SP + idler. Sort of want - in aluminum.
http://dirtmountainbike.com/longform/world-exclusive-spy-shots-arbr#hSA3gi1toppEhOjt.97
http://dirtmountainbike.com/longform/world-exclusive-spy-shots-arbr#hSA3gi1toppEhOjt.97
Jesus Idlers are getting popular.
Though I'm not sold on high pivot trailbikes. I don't want my trailbike to be able to plow through rocks. I want it to be a bit more playful and I want the geo to make me have fun on slower trails. For plowing I have my dh bike.
Though I'm not sold on high pivot trailbikes. I don't want my trailbike to be able to plow through rocks. I want it to be a bit more playful and I want the geo to make me have fun on slower trails. For plowing I have my dh bike.
Yeah I agree to a point and efficiency is more of a concern. The pivot on that thing isn't too high but. I reckon it'd ride pretty good depending on all the dependable things(geo, leverage blah blah). Also depend on what your local trails consist of. Be handy if you DH a high pivot bike a lot to keep a similar feel.
Needs a bottom idler to raise chain up on underside closer to pivot. Hope the idler is durable for lots of spins.
I'd rock it.
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Looks flexy...
Are you talking from own experience or someone told you?
Does it really matter?Are you talking from own experience or someone told you?
15mm is the new 180mm
(jk.. its a xc bike but lol at elastomers)
With the XCell elastomeric damper removed, the MTT's twin sliders are exposed to illustrate how the BMC chassis retains its lateral stability.
The Teamelite has no swingarm pivot. The frame's carbon layup provides enough vertical flex to make up for its 15 millimeters of squish.
(jk.. its a xc bike but lol at elastomers)
With the XCell elastomeric damper removed, the MTT's twin sliders are exposed to illustrate how the BMC chassis retains its lateral stability.
The Teamelite has no swingarm pivot. The frame's carbon layup provides enough vertical flex to make up for its 15 millimeters of squish.
Its for Product evaluationDoes it really matter?