so just looking at the turner site and knowing they only had 1 built up so far just for show, i noticed on the site that it says ETA for the DHR and the RFX is 2010. does this mean there going to be an early 2010 model, theres not going to be a dhr in 2009 at all, or there carring over the 08 untill the DW model comes out
no dhr next year????
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Sorry for the question, but what das "ETA" stand for?
estimated time of arrival
@DHR: Thanks!
@all: I´ve send an mail to Turner. I´ll let you know the answer.
@all: I´ve send an mail to Turner. I´ll let you know the answer.
i'm sure glad i didn't wait for the new RFX then.
Meat is murder. Tasty, Tasty Murder!
yeah i ended up on a knolly Delerium T. i think in the end i'm on the better bike
I should post the email that i got from one of the people at turner.
Joey
The DHR will not be ready this season. Looking at a 2010 model.
Thanks
Jarett
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General: Will the new dhr be available to buy during the 2009 season? As in
can I buy one before march of 2009.
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Joey
The DHR will not be ready this season. Looking at a 2010 model.
Thanks
Jarett
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www.Turnerbikes.com
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General: Will the new dhr be available to buy during the 2009 season? As in
can I buy one before march of 2009.
Name: joey wyckoff
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i hate to say itEPIC FAIL!!!!
seriously what in the hell were they thinking not offering the DHR on 09 but even more importantly for most people the RFX.
seriously what in the hell were they thinking not offering the DHR on 09 but even more importantly for most people the RFX.
Not as much of an epic fail as releasing something to the public that they are not 100% satisfied with. Personally I think it is great that they are prepared to take the risk of lost sales during 2009 by not releasing something half arsed just to cash in on the fan boys and wait until that have something they are truely happy with.
It is not an epic fail if they want to hold it from the market, but it is a fail by putting the pics of the frame and all on the site and putting up pics of it completely built on PB. They should have said it would be out in 2010 rather than getting everyones hopes up.
Agreed. Hopefully it will pay off for them in 2010 when they eventually do release it.
I think you should all boycott Turner bikes ....
So I have no problem getting my hands on one when they are released.
So I have no problem getting my hands on one when they are released.
ya word, i heard the dwlink caused HELLLLAAA flex and mad brake jack, plus the travel isn't being used properly, POOR design imo amirite guys?
edit: green=goo no rootbeer
edit: green=goo no rootbeer
jerseydirt that is exactly what i meant. they make it sound like the release was going to be very soon st interbike and other media locations. then all of a sudden they are will its not going to be this year. in this industry one year is a very long time to wait. i doubt that most anyone is going to wait one year for the frame if they were looking for a new 2009 frame.
Its not like Turner (nor any other bike company) can snap their fingers and get full production up and running instantly even if they do have a perfect design. Wouldn't be surprised if that factored into the delay.
Delaying production until they are satisfied with the DHR, totally understandable. But blowing out the current DHR, and not offering a DH frame for sale until 2010?
What's equally confusing to me is that they would focus on the DHR before the RFX. The market for mid travel bikes is much bigger than high zoot DH frames.
No skin off my back, I'm not the one waiting, definately a headscratcher reading this though.
What's equally confusing to me is that they would focus on the DHR before the RFX. The market for mid travel bikes is much bigger than high zoot DH frames.
No skin off my back, I'm not the one waiting, definately a headscratcher reading this though.
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I think the fail starts if they elect to not produce the trusty ole 2008 DHR for 2009 and instead opt to not offer a DH bike at all.
Wasn't it on here that Turner were getting slagged off for not having had enough prototypes built for testing before releasing a product to market? Well, now you have your wish...
DW Link requires the tolerances to be exact. Much more precision than a single pivot. They might be gearing up to make the frames at the level of quality that the design needs.
I hope it's not just that, I hope they are actually going to get some WC racers to thrash them before they release to public. Otherwise I'm going to hazard a guess that they'll be breaking left right and centre, they're a ridiculously light frame for what they are and IMO something's gotta give.
Whatever. If Ironhorse can build them at a moderately acceptable quality level then Turner's factory will be just fine.
Yea these things take time, glad to see they're not rushing it.
I don't doubt they'll get the proper testing on it but I only speculated it as a possible factor, not a one and only reason. I'm just saying if you have one holdup in the line (pre-production, prototyping, or production) it can cause a chain reaction and slow the whole process down.
so the trusty horse will still be the only dw link Dh bike in 2009
How long did it take them to build one that didn't kill bearings?
You mean the Sunday that took 3 years before it didn't generate play within the first 5 minutes of hard staring at the linkage?
2010 seems pretty reasonable to me, given the fact that they barely got the first un-heat treated proto finished before interbike. I got flamed a few months back when i wondered if they were cutting it aweful close if they were going for an '09 release date . . . go figure.
They'll make a lot more friends by saying 2010 and maybe having them ready earlier, rather than promising Spring '09 and leaving customers framless until August like Intense and others have done on a few occasions.
As for quality, Turner has always been top-notch and DW is well known for not releasing products until he has full faith in them. The wait will probably be well worth it.
They'll make a lot more friends by saying 2010 and maybe having them ready earlier, rather than promising Spring '09 and leaving customers framless until August like Intense and others have done on a few occasions.
As for quality, Turner has always been top-notch and DW is well known for not releasing products until he has full faith in them. The wait will probably be well worth it.
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You can blame it on the design being complicated. I blame it on the factory and the frame component spec.
I'm saying Turner's factory is more competant, DT is very thorough, and DW has learned what to look for / what to avoid through those past shortcomings. They will be just fine.
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Here's some food for thought.
Turner releases 5 new bikes at Interbike. 4 of them are ready right now.
The DHR needed another round of prototyping for a number of reasons. I'm not going to speak for Turner, but it's easy to see the bike is ;
1-totally different than any bike before it
2-will get thrashed harder than any other Turner
3-is getting the best possible pivot material that can withstand the riding the DHR will see and not get loosey goosey like a Sunday.
These bikes have been in development for 2 years. Whoopsie on the DHR release.
Sadly, i agree, the RFX should be more important! I think they figured the DHR could make it out in time for race season so getting it built over the winter made sense at one time.
We have plenty of 08 DHRs
Krispy
Turner releases 5 new bikes at Interbike. 4 of them are ready right now.
The DHR needed another round of prototyping for a number of reasons. I'm not going to speak for Turner, but it's easy to see the bike is ;
1-totally different than any bike before it
2-will get thrashed harder than any other Turner
3-is getting the best possible pivot material that can withstand the riding the DHR will see and not get loosey goosey like a Sunday.
These bikes have been in development for 2 years. Whoopsie on the DHR release.
Sadly, i agree, the RFX should be more important! I think they figured the DHR could make it out in time for race season so getting it built over the winter made sense at one time.
We have plenty of 08 DHRs
Krispy
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Might be better for them in the long run. With the economy the way it is right now maybe a 2010 release will be more successful than an earlier one since the markets MAY recover by then. I'm no economist, I'm just going by what I've heard from people smarter than myself.
I think it would be sweet if they ran out of 08 DHRs to do a limited run of the square tubed ones. That frame was just iconic, and could be a cool little twist before the DW edition comes out. I'm sure its not at all feasible though.
I think it would be sweet if they ran out of 08 DHRs to do a limited run of the square tubed ones. That frame was just iconic, and could be a cool little twist before the DW edition comes out. I'm sure its not at all feasible though.
i love my box
its o so smooth and silky and when i ride it real hard its begs to go harder and faster