No Mammoth National!
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NORBA sucks so bad ,I`ll bet they give you a idiot test and the bigger the idiot you are the higher up in the Norba step stool :hot: :hot: :hot:
Massanutten...you know...they had a World Cup there once...haww hawww...
2006 USA CYCLING MOUNTAIN BIKE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS TO BE RELOCATED
Contact: Andy Lee (Tel.) 719.866.4867 (Mobile) 719.231.2041 (E-mail)
alee@usacycling.org Website: www.usacycling.org
Colorado Springs, Colo. (May 2, 2006) - Due to massive snowfall on Mammoth
Mountain this winter, USA Cycling will be relocating its 2006 Mountain Bike
National Championships scheduled for July 20-23.
After a record 664 inches of snow fell this season, Mammoth Mountain has
reported a base depth of nearly 20 feet as of May 1 - a figure that ultimately
put the resort's ability to host a national championship-caliber event in
jeopardy.
"Looking at our snowpack today, I can confidently say we are unable to host a
mountain bike event to the quality we are all accustomed to,"commented Bill
Cockroft, senior vice president of operations at Mammoth Mountain. "It was a
difficult decision, but ultimately we believe we owe it to the mountain bike
community to make sure the event continues at the level and standards expected
by USA Cycling."
USA Cycling is currently negotiating with several venues to replace Mammoth
Mountain and a decision is expected to be announced shortly. We will send out an
announcement email when a venue is finalized.
The dates of the 2006 USA Cycling Mountain Bike National Championships will
remain unchanged.
Contact: Andy Lee (Tel.) 719.866.4867 (Mobile) 719.231.2041 (E-mail)
alee@usacycling.org Website: www.usacycling.org
Colorado Springs, Colo. (May 2, 2006) - Due to massive snowfall on Mammoth
Mountain this winter, USA Cycling will be relocating its 2006 Mountain Bike
National Championships scheduled for July 20-23.
After a record 664 inches of snow fell this season, Mammoth Mountain has
reported a base depth of nearly 20 feet as of May 1 - a figure that ultimately
put the resort's ability to host a national championship-caliber event in
jeopardy.
"Looking at our snowpack today, I can confidently say we are unable to host a
mountain bike event to the quality we are all accustomed to,"commented Bill
Cockroft, senior vice president of operations at Mammoth Mountain. "It was a
difficult decision, but ultimately we believe we owe it to the mountain bike
community to make sure the event continues at the level and standards expected
by USA Cycling."
USA Cycling is currently negotiating with several venues to replace Mammoth
Mountain and a decision is expected to be announced shortly. We will send out an
announcement email when a venue is finalized.
The dates of the 2006 USA Cycling Mountain Bike National Championships will
remain unchanged.
I remember when Mammoth was "forced" to snow-blow the course, or lose all future options of hosting an event. They did a great job then. It appears to me that changing the event dates messed this up. You have a hunch that Mammoth, being where/what it is, will get lots of snow, and time is needed for nature to do its job of melting it. Sure doesn't sound like Mammoth's fault there. The blame for this fiasco rests on USAC's shoulders by moving the event date earlier in the year. And I was going to volunteer this year as well!!!
I think the reason USAC/ NORBA moved it up to the July date was to make it line up with other country's National Champ races. That way it could be used as a qualifying event for Worlds, instead of it being after worlds and having the US team picked by points/coach's decision etc.mantispf2000 said:
i hope its at vail.
I don't think the bike industry is allowed back to vail after worlds.ride_fast said:
What happened?
Sundance. Seriously. Awesome venue.
Sundance. Seriously. Awesome venue.
As much as I'd personally like to see this event be back east, I hope for all of the teams and riders' sake that it's somewhere up in the PNW. It'd be a lot easier drive up to BC than having to drive from Anglefire, CO, etc. I hope someone at Norba/USAC looks at the event calender and and then looks at a map and puts 1 & 1 together. Here's an interesting thought...split the flippin gravity venue from the XC one...then the gravity events can be at a smaller venue and the XC events can be at a venue w/o a lift...but that'll never happen...
-ska todd
-ska todd
A little bird told me it's going to be in an alley in Los Olivos:
But, I also heard it will be down Tunnel Trail, so I'm not sure:
http://photo.pinkbike.com/photo/508/pbpic508239.jpg
What about baldy? I think it could be really good, if we built a good course. Is Norba trying to keep it the original date?
But, I also heard it will be down Tunnel Trail, so I'm not sure:
http://photo.pinkbike.com/photo/508/pbpic508239.jpg
What about baldy? I think it could be really good, if we built a good course. Is Norba trying to keep it the original date?
I heard this morning there will be no replacement event, the question is if I trust this person?
I wouldnt be surprised if that was the casestiksandstones said:
Ya, would be quite sad if that was the case. It is hard enough getting venues to put on an event these days...especially in May, but hell, there is a national in fontucky, so anything is possible.
stiksandstones said:
If they can't find a place why not just move the damn thing back later in the year at mammoth, high up on the mountain is still going to habe snow but the canyon side should be clear up to bullet in mid to late augest.
I've heard rumors of a Seond Mount Snow National.
Damnit, I want it to be in Mammoth I live right there damnit, it will be so easy for meb stevens said:so I called mammoth and this is what they said "it is canceled, BUT were losing snow faster than we thought we would, norba is looking for a new venue but if we lose enough snow it will still be here, were hoping to still have it here"
they they went on to say "wait on canceling the motel room right now. and to just wait and see what happens".
your guess is as good as mine
sonoma would make sense their going to be there the week before why not just do back to back weekends. from what mammoth said to me, I would'nt be suprised if it ended up back at mammoth. maybe mammoth does'nt want to spend a bunch of money on removing snow so they cancled and when norba can't find another venue, mammoth will say have it here what were not removing any snow you'll have to work around it. they said its melting really fast.
a few thoughts from me.:mumble:
a few thoughts from me.:mumble:
Noooo I'm sick of driving to VT.DH biker said:
Do it at Mammoth in Mid August
Durango
This is kind of off topic, but why doesn't WY or MT step up and have a good race venue? I assume they don't have nearly the land management bureaucracy of CO, and they have to have some gnarly terrain to build on. Look at Jackson Hole or Big Sky Country 
i agree it needs to be in August.
I've been wondering the same thing the last few years. There is so much territory up there and a big time lack of rules.DHanamal said:This is kind of off topic, but why doesn't WY or MT step up and have a good race venue? I assume they don't have nearly the land management bureaucracy of CO, and they have to have some gnarly terrain to build on. Look at Jackson Hole or Big Sky Country
Nobody lives in Montana and Wyoming.DHanamal said:This is kind of off topic, but why doesn't WY or MT step up and have a good race venue? I assume they don't have nearly the land management bureaucracy of CO, and they have to have some gnarly terrain to build on. Look at Jackson Hole or Big Sky Country
Bingo, which is exactly why the Idaho suggestion would never happen. These venues are way too far from everyone to be feasible.WheelieMan said:
Msisle Dad said:
I agree; it's seems a lot more logical to just move the date back.
I nominate Whiteface in Lake Placid, NY
why not make the last nmbs race the national championship as well?
I think NORBA needs to find a venue that can host the event before the World Championships. Wouldn't you want to find out your National Champs before the Worlds so you can send your top riders? It is much better than having coaches and a point system deciding who goes to represent your country.
So 1 race is a better way to select the best riders, rather than multiple races across different venues over a longer period of time?DHCorky said:
Your logic is drastically flawed.
holy crap, if its on the east coast, I might actually go (if I can get past that extensive invite process)...
You mean showing up?dante said:holy crap, if its on the east coast, I might actually go (if I can get past that extensive invite process)...
uh oh...Fraser + flawed logic =Transcend said:
Up until 2004 thats how they did it. But it seemed kind of lame to award a National Champion prize to the guy who finished in 9th place behind a bunch of foreigners.motomike said:
True using a series of races to decide a National Champion is the best way.Transcend said:
NORBA is awarding a National Champion based on one race. It only makes sense to use that race to choose who goes to worlds.
NORBA uses the Nationals to qualify riders for the National Championship. Then you have a race of the top riders to decide the National Champions. Seems kind of after the fact to have this race after the World Championships.
word on the street is that florida is stepping up to the plate.
The thing is the "national champion" title doesn't really mean anything. The qualifying for the championships is the same points syetm they use for worlds (more or less). This makes much more sense than the national championship one day title.DHCorky said:
That is all it is, a title. It shouldn't qualify you for anything, because it's pointless.