Anybody else heard that Snow Summit is getting sued and will not have any Downhill races next year. This is really going to suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Roger
Roger
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Arrrgh.
Lawyers suck.
People who sue because they made a mistake suck worse.
Lawyers suck.
People who sue because they made a mistake suck worse.
Nope... Haven't heard.
What about a "regular" season (lift access)?
What about a "regular" season (lift access)?
Whaaat? This is insane. Anyone else have any info? Who the hell is sueing?
WTF - That would REALLY suck... I had a blast there last year and was really looking forward to this years race (one of very few I wanted to do). Give us info as you find out more details...
These lawsuits are getting retarded..
These lawsuits are getting retarded..
it's actually making me flippin' sick!!
Can we SUE people that get our parks closed b/c they SUED the park?
NONONONONO PLEASE NO.....lies and fabrications.....I hope
Would that also include the NORBA National?
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Rabie
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I think Pegboy is actually the one suing. From what I know his complaints seem pretty legitimate, but for obvious reasons he didn't really want to discuss them on the board. If anyone is really interested, just PM him.
IF his claims are substantiated maybe you can tell us what you know without involving him. I don't know if he can even talk about it legally anyway.
If they (Snow Summmit) did something wrong, they should pay up, correct the problem and resume standard operations.
If they (Snow Summmit) did something wrong, they should pay up, correct the problem and resume standard operations.
The idea of sueing anything related to the downhilling community is so foreign to me I just cant comprehend any complaint (legitimate or not) big enough that would mean shutting down a place that provides a service as great as lift access bike riding in the summer time. It would be a shame if this goes through. I know if my local area got shut down because of law suits I would flip on the person that caused it.
Is this regarding the human Lawndart jumps TBB put in? They don't have a clue how to make a jump, but is suing the answer?
TBB does very little in the way of decent construction and doesn't seem to even listen to the DH riders ideas either, that does piss me off about them.
What they do have is good ability to run timing equipment and promote MTB racing, and despite their ills this is more important IMO.
I was going to get back into racing this year and do the AmCup series, but it looks like that isn't happening. This sucks guys, really sucks.
TBB does very little in the way of decent construction and doesn't seem to even listen to the DH riders ideas either, that does piss me off about them.
What they do have is good ability to run timing equipment and promote MTB racing, and despite their ills this is more important IMO.
I was going to get back into racing this year and do the AmCup series, but it looks like that isn't happening. This sucks guys, really sucks.
damn hope its not true. i was really hoping to get out there for nats
Ok if it is a forum member suing, shame on you.
In any case, frivolous lawsuits are the bane of society. If you got hurt riding your bike (whether it is bad jumps, bad trail maintenance, i don't care) it is YOUR FAULT. Anything short of a lift breaking and you crashing 100 feet to the ground is 100% your fault. It is a risky sport, deal with it.
In any case, frivolous lawsuits are the bane of society. If you got hurt riding your bike (whether it is bad jumps, bad trail maintenance, i don't care) it is YOUR FAULT. Anything short of a lift breaking and you crashing 100 feet to the ground is 100% your fault. It is a risky sport, deal with it.
of course, you live in america. You are never responsible for your own actions, so he would probably get away with it anyways.-BB- said:
Hmm...Transcend said:
While I am against frivilous lawsuits, I think if something was just really dangerous on a bike trail that should not have been there that caused some serious damage, i wouldnt have a problem with it. For example a jump that led to a cliff with spikes at the bottom or something. Or a knifegarden instead of a rockgarden.
BWAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!
Knife garden!
Knife garden!
The lawsuit, if it exists, might have NOTHING to do with biking. Maybe a skiier or hiker sued...maybe someone was mangled by the lift. Maybe the ensuing financial problems will close down summer operatiosn. We don't really know...not time to jump to the frivolous lawsuit by a biker soapbox yet.
Although I am eyeballing a leap in that direction.
MD
Although I am eyeballing a leap in that direction.
MD
That guy is just plain mean. He's been taunting me with his prosthetic leg for years. Once he even threatened that he was going to kick my ass with one leg tied behind his back. That's not cool. I can still hear him yelling at me from the lifts. "I'm gonna kill you, then I'm gonna sue Big bear."Rabie said:
Let's just hope this karma thing is real.
Where did this "rumor" come from?
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BWAAAHAHA!!!W4S said:
No really though, this has to be a rumor, or I'm gonna **** myself (not joking).
Canadadians aren't as sue happy as us Californicaters.
There is a fine line between personal responsiblity and the mountain being liable.
When I lived in PA, a local mountain opened for bikes. They routed the bike trail over a bridge designed for skiers. The planks of the bridge ran parallel to the direction of traffic and were spaced far enough apart so a tire could get caught. Of course a biker hit this bridge at high speed and went flying over the bars.
My point is, there IS a possible scenario in which the mountain should be held responsible.
When I lived in PA, a local mountain opened for bikes. They routed the bike trail over a bridge designed for skiers. The planks of the bridge ran parallel to the direction of traffic and were spaced far enough apart so a tire could get caught. Of course a biker hit this bridge at high speed and went flying over the bars.
My point is, there IS a possible scenario in which the mountain should be held responsible.
Its not a rumor. Lord pounder says your a hack. Deal with it. The KGB is watching you.Fonzie18 said:
Lets see: you are encouraged to ride your bike in the streets in downtown chicago when sidewalks are crowded. So I was riding in the street like I was supposed to, and accidentally ran into a public transportation bus. Because I was told the ride in the street, and the bus is owned by the city, im going to sue the city. Its not my fault I wasnt paying attention, Its the city's for having busses where they tell me to ride 
I have a friend who lives in Big Bear and works as a ski instructor at the mountain. Right now she has only heard that the mountain is considering not opening during the summer months because their cost of insurance is so high now that it almost isn't luctative enough to be worth the risk of getting sued. She wasn't sure if there is a lawsuit pending, but this issue isn't just about a lawsuit, it's about the high cost of liability insurance also.
That's the third place in CA that's been sued so far this fall. Sandhill Ranch, Calabasas, and now Big Bear. Great. Boy oh boy, do I love this country I live in. Any idea when or where we can find the whole story on this lawsuit? Does this thing really exist or is this a sick joke?
I disagree. You look before you leap. You do not hit a bridge at high speed unless you have looked at it in advance. IE: even in yoru scenario, it was rider error in a dangerous sport. NEXT.buildyourown said:
that was in mountain bike mag a few years back right?buildyourown said:
a deffective stunt or something of that nature would be the only reason to sue a mountain unless the chairlift malfunctioned.
but duh its dh its dangerous
know your limits and abide by them.
i got effed up on a lawn dart table jump at ragged mt a in 2003 but i got up eventually and learned not to hit it at 40