[al-irl]

nukeproof just popped these spy shots up on there facebook page. It looks nice and what they've mentioned on the comments about geo sound good. Looking forward to seeing the finished article


http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=196161&id=153078113326

 

[fluider]

Interesting! Their FR prototype as well but it seems to have quite a high standover, doesn't it?

 

[iRider]

This is an Evil Trek!

 

[RMboy]

Looks nice, from the odd photos, no idea how it will be when built! :-D

 

[al-irl]

Interesting! Their FR prototype as well but it seems to have quite a high standover, doesn't it?

I've seen it in the flesh and its not that high. Its a fairy sweet bike.

 

[al-irl]

some complete pics up now

looks nice a bit like a lightweight trek session 10

 

[fluider]

Really a nice frame. But those cable stops on side-bottom face of downtube on FR frame, that's really ugly IMO.

 

[The Man]

The first one looks like a mix of a TR 450 and an Evil Revolt. It looks nice though. The second one reminds me of a Jamis Parker.

 

[norbar]

Blindside anyone?

 

[al-irl]

not a blindside its not a dh bike its kinda in between a bottle rocket and a blindside

 

[monkeyfcuker]

Both look very interesting if the price is right!

 

[ridefast]

The first one is looks pretty damn close to a TR450 with a reversed seattube/swing link set up...rather than have the links on the inside of the seat mast support, they put them on the outside


Granted, there is only so much you can do with a single pivot set up, but that is a pretty similar looking design to the latest from TBC.

I know there will be plenty of people that bitch and moan about them copying Transition or any other company, but so what? Apparently the TR450 is the frame/design of the week, there are bound to be a number of knockoffs or similar designs popping up. This isnt a bad thing but Nukeproof will probably catch a fair amount of flack from the interweb groms. (Nukeproof was around waaay before Transition was even thought about being started...congrats for longevity.)


I just hope that this drives the market to produce better, cheaper products.

 

[shedfire]

The first one is looks pretty damn close to a TR450 with a reversed seattube/swing link set up...rather than have the links on the inside of the seat mast support, they put them on the outside

Well, yes, and also we have a "pull link" between the swingarm and swinglink, rather than a "push link".

I guess the main pivot and shock mount are in pretty similar positions. But the actuation is quite different.

 

[norbar]

(Nukeproof was around waaay before Transition was even thought about being started...congrats for longevity.)


I just hope that this drives the market to produce better, cheaper products.

They went bankrupt if I'm not wrong or at least they were gone for long time. The new nuke proof shares the name but I'm not so sure if it's really the same company. Not that I want to bash them. Like the bikes, they make nice hubs but some crappy bars.

 

[SuspectDevice]

Well, yes, and also we

Internets: This dude is really ****ing good at his job.
These NukeProof bikes now get my mushroom stamp of approval.

 

[al-irl]

They went bankrupt if I'm not wrong or at least they were gone for long time. The new nuke proof shares the name but I'm not so sure if it's really the same company. Not that I want to bash them. Like the bikes, they make nice hubs but some crappy bars.

The current incarnation of Nukeproof is pretty much another wing of chainreactioncycles.com Its all nice stuff and well priced and most of there stuff seems to be a slightly lower priced version of a good product from one of the bling manufacturers. They share many of the same features etc but a little more mass produced and hence lower priced.

 

[leprechaun]

Well, yes, and also we have a "pull link" between the swingarm and swinglink, rather than a "push link".

I guess the main pivot and shock mount are in pretty similar positions. But the actuation is quite different.

Do you care to comment on the progression rate? These type of linkage frames can be excellent IMO assuming there's a fairly clean rising rate- once again my preference.

The Ventana El Cuervo is still one of my all time favorites.

I also really like the slightly foreward pivot location

 

[norbar]

The current incarnation of Nukeproof is pretty much another wing of chainreactioncycles.com Its all nice stuff and well priced and most of there stuff seems to be a slightly lower priced version of a good product from one of the bling manufacturers. They share many of the same features etc but a little more mass produced and hence lower priced.

Yeah that's what I remembered. Weren't the old nuke hubs crazy expensive?

 

[shedfire]

The Ventana El Cuervo is still one of my all time favorites.

How's this?

 

[leprechaun]

Cool-thanks! 3" stroke shock?

 

[shedfire]

Cool-thanks! 3" stroke shock?

Well, 75mm ;-)

The El Cuevo is closer in design to the TR450, with a push link driving the swinglink. We like our pull link, as the system tends towards increasing progressiveness at each end of the stroke with a nice constant rate change in the midstroke.

 

[dump]

What's the story on nukeproof? I remember in the mid-90s, they had some of the trickest wheels. I recall they sort of died, and now they're back and making frames?

 

[shedfire]

Brands change hands, owners and direction over the years. Off the top of my head:-

Salsa
onZa
Syncros
Control Tech

Brands that still exist, but aren't run by the folks that started them.

Anyhow - here's an "old" Nukeproof frame ;-p - http://old-metal.blogspot.com/2009/06/nuke-proof-titanium.html

 

[AngryBeaver]

Being that CRC own nuke Proof, will we be seeing the Chain Reaction team racing these for 2011??

 

[zdubyadubya]

wait a second.... nuke proof's big this has been titanium... so is this frame Ti?

 

[shedfire]

It's not Ti no ;-) It will have some ti bits are some point, but for now it's all aluminum (as you lot say) and stainless steel (bolts).

The plastic tube that's used as "shock replacement for transit" is a little bit short too there, so you're seeing the frame "compressed" into it's travel a little.

 

[shedfire]

some more pics - built up with a vivid.
we're building it up tommorow properly.

more pics here - Nukeproof DH - a set on Flickr

 

[ocelot]

will it be offered in black and yellow? haha

 

[Banshee Rider]

That's a clean looking frame. I like the looks of it alot.

 

[bansheefr]

Very nice looking frame, can't wait to see it built up. From front to back it looks like a Glory/TR450/Makulu.

 

[MMcG]

shedfire = Brant Richards formerly of On One notoriety and currently of Ragley Bikes and components notoriety.

So Brant, are the Nukeproof FS designs sort of design progression from the Planet X split-tail etc?

 

[shedfire]

So are the Nukeproof FS designs sort of design progression from the Planet X split-tail etc?

The split-tail was nothing to do with me! That was a Zedsport project. When I was at Planet X/On-one we did a suspension frame in conjunction with Astrix, but this is nothing to do with them, either.

 

[MMcG]

Gotcha. Your new stuff is cool stuff that's for sure.

 

[monkeyfcuker]

I'm liking this more and more, any idea on pricing?

Don't suppose you need a half arsed hack with poor race results to help with testing? No, thought not haha!

 

[shedfire]

Gotcha. Your new stuff is cool stuff that's for sure.

Lots more time to design (and ride), now I'm not involved in the distribution/accounts/management side of running the business day to day.

 

[scottishmark]

I'm liking this more and more, any idea on pricing?

Don't suppose you need a half arsed hack with poor race results to help with testing? No, thought not haha!

Don't do it Brant!! (Unless you want to some crash testing )

 

[monkeyfcuker]

Ah yes, I also love a really good crash erm most of the time.

 

[Pslide]

some more pics - built up with a vivid.
we're building it up tommorow properly.

Does that mean you'll be changing out the Vivid?

Only joking...

This is one of the nicest designs I've seen in a long time. I'm liking the leverage curve as well. I hope you'll be able to dial in a good shock tune to match the bike. That makes all the difference these days IMO, especially with low leverage ratios.

 

[al-irl]

looks sweet nice low centre of gravity and nice clean lines. The fully assembled frame looks sweet. Is this a final proto or will there be many changes for the production version or is it too early to tell.

 

[Pslide]

I also really like the slightly foreward pivot location

Just out of curiousity, why do you say that? I'm assuming your comparing to a slightly rearward pivot location, like the Trek or the TR450?